Same here. I echo the question.

On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 7:27 AM, Carl Jeptha <wispli...@airnet.ca> wrote:
> we use the 10.0.0.0/8  network (dreams of being very big back in 1998),
> every microcell has a /24 (10.0.1.0 , etc).
>
> We don't know if we can use PPPoE on a routed network as all the docs I have
> read talk about bridging, I would prefer routing. I have chased my tail a
> few times on a bridged network.
>
> You have a Good Day now,
>
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> On 01/06/2010 10:31 AM, RickG wrote:
>>
>> I like the idea of PPPoE and bridging to the CPE. Do you route or
>> bridge to multiple towers?
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 7:44 AM, Carl Jeptha<wispli...@airnet.ca>  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I am at present using the same setup plus one more nat like this:
>>> public - private
>>> AP sub netted to cpe
>>> cpe natted
>>> router natted
>>> xbox
>>>
>>> we are going to change to PPPoE and bridge to the CPE, needing more
>>> control
>>> on the clients bandwidth usage.
>>>
>>> And My Rock Band and Guitar Hero works just fine, been to busy to play
>>> lately though, something wrong with that - going to fix it. 8-)
>>>
>>> You have a Good Day now,
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> On 01/06/2010 3:18 AM, RickG wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Good info. I'm the same set up. Just not totally warm&    fuzzy that my
>>>> subs are getting a 100% XBox live experience so looking for anything I
>>>> might have missed. I've got the ports forwarded and upnp enabled. I
>>>> guess time will tell. Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 2:02 AM, Josh Luthman
>>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>    wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I see.  In my case, no - one public for many private.  Behind that is
>>>>> a CPE that NATs again.  Once again if they have a wireless router.
>>>>> Xbox users I know of do not have a wireless router.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6/1/10, Andrew Cox<and...@accessplus.com.au>    wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   He means having a range of external IP's that are on the outside,
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> all forwarded/natted to private addresses on the inside of a network.
>>>>>> I believe this also known as "Symetric NAT" from memory.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Andrew
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/1/2010 2:48 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can you give me a couple examples?  I'm still not getting you...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 6/1/10, RickG<rgunder...@gmail.com>      wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sorry, S/B 1 to 1 NAT. Meaning matching a public (real) IP to a
>>>>>>>> private
>>>>>>>> IP.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 11:11 PM, Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>      wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What do you mean by 1-1 NAT?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 5/31/10, RickG<rgunder...@gmail.com>      wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Are you using 1-1 NAT?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>      wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Not sure what else there is to say.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Make sure your CPEs have upnp and 4.6 (whatever the old thread
>>>>>>>>>>> mentioned said) and that was the end of it for me.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Like I said I have triple NAT.  I am using MT CPEs and was using
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> MT
>>>>>>>>>>> core router.  It is ImageStream now.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/31/10, Hilton J Ralphs<hil...@think.co.za>      wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Come on Josh, Rick is asking you for help.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hilton J Ralphs
>>>>>>>>>>>> Think Technologies
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't get any phone calls about it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 1:57 PM, RickG<rgunder...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its strange because I hear XBox works fine on my network (it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> does
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> me). But, every once in a while, I get a complaint that it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesnt.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What did you do to make sure it works on your network?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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