Again, the missing LAC/LNS functionality. You can fake it, to some extent, in Mikrotik with EoIP to allow a routed network, and a central PPPoE server.
> -----Original Message----- > From: mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com [mailto:mikrotik- > boun...@mail.butchevans.com] On Behalf Of RickG > Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 12:02 PM > To: Mikrotik discussions > Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] XBox > > Same here. I echo the question. > > On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 7:27 AM, Carl Jeptha <wispli...@airnet.ca> wrote: > > we use the 10.0.0.0/8 network (dreams of being very big back in 1998), > > every microcell has a /24 (10.0.1.0 , etc). > > > > We don't know if we can use PPPoE on a routed network as all the docs I > have > > read talk about bridging, I would prefer routing. I have chased my tail > a > > few times on a bridged network. > > > > You have a Good Day now, > > > > > > Carl A Jeptha > > http://www.airnet.ca > > Office Phone: 1-877-534-0021 ext 206 > > Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm > > skype cajeptha > > > > > > On 01/06/2010 10:31 AM, RickG wrote: > >> > >> I like the idea of PPPoE and bridging to the CPE. Do you route or > >> bridge to multiple towers? > >> > >> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 7:44 AM, Carl Jeptha<wispli...@airnet.ca> > wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> I am at present using the same setup plus one more nat like this: > >>> public - private > >>> AP sub netted to cpe > >>> cpe natted > >>> router natted > >>> xbox > >>> > >>> we are going to change to PPPoE and bridge to the CPE, needing more > >>> control > >>> on the clients bandwidth usage. > >>> > >>> And My Rock Band and Guitar Hero works just fine, been to busy to play > >>> lately though, something wrong with that - going to fix it. 8-) > >>> > >>> You have a Good Day now, > >>> > >>> > >>> Carl A Jeptha > >>> http://www.airnet.ca > >>> Office Phone: 1-877-534-0021 ext 206 > >>> Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm > >>> skype cajeptha > >>> > >>> > >>> On 01/06/2010 3:18 AM, RickG wrote: > >>> > >>>> > >>>> Good info. I'm the same set up. Just not totally warm& fuzzy that > my > >>>> subs are getting a 100% XBox live experience so looking for anything > I > >>>> might have missed. I've got the ports forwarded and upnp enabled. I > >>>> guess time will tell. Thanks! > >>>> > >>>> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 2:02 AM, Josh Luthman > >>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> I see. In my case, no - one public for many private. Behind that > is > >>>>> a CPE that NATs again. Once again if they have a wireless router. > >>>>> Xbox users I know of do not have a wireless router. > >>>>> > >>>>> On 6/1/10, Andrew Cox<and...@accessplus.com.au> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> He means having a range of external IP's that are on the outside, > >>>>>> but > >>>>>> all forwarded/natted to private addresses on the inside of a > network. > >>>>>> I believe this also known as "Symetric NAT" from memory. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> - Andrew > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 6/1/2010 2:48 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Can you give me a couple examples? I'm still not getting you... > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On 6/1/10, RickG<rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Sorry, S/B 1 to 1 NAT. Meaning matching a public (real) IP to a > >>>>>>>> private > >>>>>>>> IP. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 11:11 PM, Josh Luthman > >>>>>>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> What do you mean by 1-1 NAT? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On 5/31/10, RickG<rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Are you using 1-1 NAT? > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Josh Luthman > >>>>>>>>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Not sure what else there is to say. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Make sure your CPEs have upnp and 4.6 (whatever the old thread > >>>>>>>>>>> mentioned said) and that was the end of it for me. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Like I said I have triple NAT. I am using MT CPEs and was > using > >>>>>>>>>>> a > >>>>>>>>>>> MT > >>>>>>>>>>> core router. It is ImageStream now. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On 5/31/10, Hilton J Ralphs<hil...@think.co.za> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Come on Josh, Rick is asking you for help. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hilton J Ralphs > >>>>>>>>>>>> Think Technologies > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>>>>>>> From: Josh Luthman > >>>>>>>>>>>> I don't get any phone calls about it. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 1:57 PM, RickG<rgunder...@gmail.com> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Its strange because I hear XBox works fine on my network (it > >>>>>>>>>>>>> does > >>>>>>>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>>>>>>> me). 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