Hi Thorsten, apologies for the delay.

On Thu, 2017 Apr 20 21:49+0000, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
>
> >Interesting! So POSIX assumes ASCII, to a certain extent.
>
> Yes, it does. I think EBCDIC as charset is actually nonconformant, but
> it probably pays off to stay close nevertheless. (This is actually
> about the POSIX/'C' locale; other locales can pretty much do whatever
> they want.)

Ah, okay, C locale; that makes sense. I did imagine POSIX was largely
agnostic about the character set.

> >Even if you really do need a table, you could populate it on startup
> >using these.
>
> Indeed… but we have the compile-time translated characters all over
> the source (I think we agreed earlier that not supporting changing it
> at runtime was okay).

Oh, so you mean like if(c=='[') and such? That is certainly reasonable.
The program would be tied to the compile-time codepage no worse than
most other programs.

(If you could do everything in terms of character literals, without
depending on constructs like if(c>='A'&&c<='Z'), your code would be
pretty much EBCDIC-proof.)

> >Anyway, if you need any z/OS testing, feel free to drop me a line ;)
>
> Thanks!
>
> I hope to be able to get back to that offer eventually. Glad to know
> you’re still interested after two years.

Mainframes are not a platform for the impatient... at least not if one
has to deal with IBM  ^_^


On Fri, 2017 Apr 21 20:20+0000, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
> Daniel Richard G. dixit:
> 
> >Anyway, if you need any z/OS testing, feel free to drop me a line ;)
>
> main() { printf("%02X\n", '\n'); return 0; }
>
> Out of curiosity, what does that print on your systems, 15 or 25?

    $ cat >test.c
    main() { printf("%02X\n", '\n'); return 0; }

    $ xlc -o test test.c

    $ ./test
    15

However...

    $ cat >test2.c
    #pragma convert("ISO8859-1")
    int c = '\n';
    #pragma convert(pop)
    main() { printf("%02X\n", c); return 0; }

    $ xlc -o test2 test2.c

    $ ./test2
    0A

That may or may not be useful. Of course, the pragma would need to be
protected by

    #if defined(__MVS__) && defined(__IBMC__)

Gnulib uses this in its test-iconv.c program, because the string
literals therein need to be in ASCII regardless of platform.

> Also, what line endings do the auto-converted source files, such
> as dot.mkshrc, have?

    $ head -2 dot.mkshrc 
    # $Id$
    # $MirOS: src/bin/mksh/dot.mkshrc,v 1.101 2015/07/18 23:03:24 tg Exp $

    $ head -2 dot.mkshrc | od -t x1
    0000000000    7B  40  5B  C9  84  5B  15  7B  40  5B  D4  89  99  D6  E2  7A
    0000000020    40  A2  99  83  61  82  89  95  61  94  92  A2  88  61  84  96
    0000000040    A3  4B  94  92  A2  88  99  83  6B  A5  40  F1  4B  F1  F0  F1
    0000000060    40  F2  F0  F1  F5  61  F0  F7  61  F1  F8  40  F2  F3  7A  F0
    0000000100    F3  7A  F2  F4  40  A3  87  40  C5  A7  97  40  5B  15
    0000000116

(Yes, binary files do get messed up :-]  On z/OS-native filesystems,
there is a per-file type flag that enables or disables encoding auto-
conversion. For NFS mounts, you have to mount it as either "binary" or
"text." The mksh source tree above is on the latter sort of mount.)

Let me know if I can help any more!


--Daniel


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