> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason Crawford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 5:25 PM
> To: Will H. Backman
> Cc: j knight; Misc OpenBSD
> Subject: Re: /usr/share/pf/ suggestion
> 
> On 8/23/05, Will H. Backman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: j knight [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 4:47 PM
> > > To: Will H. Backman
> > > Subject: Re: /usr/share/pf/ suggestion
> > >
> > > --- Quoting Will H. Backman on 2005/08/23 at 14:59 -0400:
> > >
> > > > Would it be useful to add an example pf rule set for just a
simple
> > host?
> > > > All of the examples assume a router.
> > > >
> > >
> > > This would be more useful in the faq. Please send what you've
written.
> > >
> > > :-)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > .joel
> >
> > # pf rules for a stand alone machine.
> >
> > #Change external interface to match yours
> > ext_if=xl0
> >
> > scrub in all
> >
> > block in all
> >
> > pass out keep state
> >
> > pass quick on lo all
> >
> 
> First off, it should be, set skip on lo0 (or lo, but by default
> there's only one lo interface anyways). Secondly, it seems pretty
> pointless to setup pf on a single host. Instead of worrying about the
> firewall, which takes up more memory and cpu and all that, just shut
> off services that you don't need and be done with it. If the attacker
> can hurt your OpenBSD machine, then your firewall is vulnerable as
> well, and it won't protect any applications that need open ports
> listening. Turning off services is always much better than turning on
> services (pf) if you need protection. And the way OpenBSD is setup by
> default, nothing is listening except a couple inetd services (which I
> always turn off), and sshd if you said y in install, that's it.
> 
> Jason

I agree in general, but then start adding the gnome or kde desktop or
other applications and you never know what is listening.

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