Am I the only one wanting the tone to be polite and friendly among friends?
I think the only reason why Tomas Bodzar didn't snap the head of Theo or at least tried to is because every booting OpenBSD on earth start by says dera...@i386.openbsd.org - no small accomplishment - hats off! I started my morning reading all these ugly words thrown at each other and really hated it, made my morning drive to work wondering why a creator of something so beautiful had to throw such words at others - lawyer etc.... I'm not judging who's wrong or right in this particularly case - I just think that creators and users of the worlds most fantastic OS should have more patience with each other and address each other politely. Please continue the "fight" / debate ! Kind reagards Morten Bech Christensen Aarup, Denmark Den 05/03/2012 kl. 07.25 skrev Theo de Raadt: >> On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 7:06 AM, Theo de Raadt <dera...@cvs.openbsd.org> >> wrote: >>>> On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 3:04 AM, Theo de Raadt <dera...@cvs.openbsd.org> >>>> wrote: >>>>>> But again. OpenBSD tried at least two times before to apply, but was >>>>>> not accepted by Google >>>>> >>>>> That is false. >>>>> >>>>> We were approached by Google "people" to participate, but we can >>>>> find noone in our project who will accept signing their contract. >>>>> >>>>> We told them that was a problem. B They chose not to find a way >>>>> around the problem. >>>>> >>>>> That is not the same as what you said, so what you said was false, >>>>> yes, what you said was a lie. >>>> >>>> So probably Kenneth lie as well >>>> http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=120661469904489&w=2 ;-) But I don't >>>> think so. >>> >>> The OpenBSD Foundation is not the same thing as the OpenBSD Project. >> >> I know that difference very well. Snippet from web page "While the >> foundation works in close cooperation with the developers of these >> wonderful free software projects, it is a separate entity. " Similar >> foundations are used because of taxes(mostly) like >> http://www.openbsdfoundation.org/donations.html . But people are same >> and any question in archives of misc@ was always targeted to those >> people. To get info if OpenBSD applied and if not then why or if yes >> then why it was not accepted. Of course you or any other developer are >> not supposed to answer as this is your project and you do it for fun >> or whatever and we use it because it's close enough to our needs. >> >>> >>> If you are that uneducated, you should perhaps not speak. >> >> I will be expert in coffin :-) People learn by mistakes a lot of time >> so that's why I'm still learning and don't think that I kn >> everything. Reason why I answered see above. > > That is complete balony and you know it. The question came down to > who would sign the google paperwork "for OpenBSD". The Project > cannot. The Foundation cannot, either. In the end noone could accept > it. The personal liability was too great. Unlike other projects out > there, OpenBSD is not a company able to assume risk and ignore the > consequences. > > Google didn't decide against allowing OpenBSD to join their program. > > They tried to trap us with legalize, and we didn't take the bait of > assuming that their legalize is just meaningless words. > > The rest of what you are saying is wordy mumbo jumbo. > > You should become a lawyer. You've got some of the skills already.
