On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 8:41 PM, Morten Christensen <morten_b_christen...@me.com> wrote: > Am I the only one wanting the tone to be polite and friendly among friends? > > I think the only reason why Tomas Bodzar didn't snap the head of Theo or at least tried to is because every booting OpenBSD on earth start by says dera...@i386.openbsd.org - no small accomplishment - hats off! > > I started my morning reading all these ugly words thrown at each other and really hated it, made my morning drive to work wondering why a creator of something so beautiful had to throw such words at others - lawyer etc.... > > I'm not judging who's wrong or right in this particularly case - I just think that creators and users of the worlds most fantastic OS should have more patience with each other and address each other politely. > > Please continue the "fight" / debate !
That was not fight ;-) You need to know Theo or at least follow his posts for a longer time. He had right points in his reactions to me and I know it and respect it. I don't agree with everything, but that's purpose of debate. What's most important I don't think that OpenBSD will be such a superb piece of SW if Theo will be "sweet" against everyone :-) PS: When he said that I'm in good position to become lawyer I really started laughing a lot because it was used in a way that you must laugh if you're not focused too much on ego. Because it was clean sample of theo.c :-) > > Kind reagards > > Morten Bech Christensen > Aarup, Denmark > > > > > > Den 05/03/2012 kl. 07.25 skrev Theo de Raadt: > >>> On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 7:06 AM, Theo de Raadt <dera...@cvs.openbsd.org> wrote: >>>>> On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 3:04 AM, Theo de Raadt <dera...@cvs.openbsd.org> wrote: >>>>>>> But again. OpenBSD tried at least two times before to apply, but was >>>>>>> not accepted by Google >>>>>> >>>>>> That is false. >>>>>> >>>>>> We were approached by Google "people" to participate, but we can >>>>>> find noone in our project who will accept signing their contract. >>>>>> >>>>>> We told them that was a problem. B They chose not to find a way >>>>>> around the problem. >>>>>> >>>>>> That is not the same as what you said, so what you said was false, >>>>>> yes, what you said was a lie. >>>>> >>>>> So probably Kenneth lie as well >>>>> http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=120661469904489&w=2 ;-) But I don't >>>>> think so. >>>> >>>> The OpenBSD Foundation is not the same thing as the OpenBSD Project. >>> >>> I know that difference very well. Snippet from web page "While the >>> foundation works in close cooperation with the developers of these >>> wonderful free software projects, it is a separate entity. " Similar >>> foundations are used because of taxes(mostly) like >>> http://www.openbsdfoundation.org/donations.html . But people are same >>> and any question in archives of misc@ was always targeted to those >>> people. To get info if OpenBSD applied and if not then why or if yes >>> then why it was not accepted. Of course you or any other developer are >>> not supposed to answer as this is your project and you do it for fun >>> or whatever and we use it because it's close enough to our needs. >>> >>>> >>>> If you are that uneducated, you should perhaps not speak. >>> >>> I will be expert in coffin :-) People learn by mistakes a lot of time >>> so that's why I'm still learning and don't think that I kn >>> everything. Reason why I answered see above. >> >> That is complete balony and you know it. B The question came down to >> who would sign the google paperwork "for OpenBSD". B The Project >> cannot. B The Foundation cannot, either. B In the end noone could accept >> it. B The personal liability was too great. B Unlike other projects out >> there, OpenBSD is not a company able to assume risk and ignore the >> consequences. >> >> Google didn't decide against allowing OpenBSD to join their program. >> >> They tried to trap us with legalize, and we didn't take the bait of >> assuming that their legalize is just meaningless words. >> >> The rest of what you are saying is wordy mumbo jumbo. >> >> You should become a lawyer. B You've got some of the skills already.