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Just trying to find out if the output from running ./out-of-date for installed packages is because I've cvsup'd current and rebuilt everything numerous times which, I'm pretty sure I read, is unsupported. Only fresh installs of current snapshot supported, I believe. Anyways, here's the output when I run ./out-of-date: - -------------------------------------- archivers/bzip2 # c.38.2 -> c.38.3 archivers/gtar # c.38.2,gettext-0.10.40p3,intl.2.0 -> c.38.3,gettext-0.14.5,intl.3.0 archivers/unzip # c.38.2 -> c.38.3 archivers/zip # c.38.2 -> c.38.3 audio/esound # c.38.2 -> c.38.3 converters/libiconv # c.38.2 -> c.38.3 devel/atk # gettext-0.10.40p3,intl.2.0 -> gettext-0.14.5,intl.3.0 devel/gettext # 0.10.40p3 -> 0.14.5 devel/glib2 # c.38.2,gettext-0.10.40p3,intl.2.0 -> c.38.3,gettext-0.14.5,intl.3.0 devel/gmake # c.38.2,gettext-0.10.40p3,intl.2.0 -> c.38.3,gettext-0.14.5,intl.3.0 devel/libaudiofile # c.38.2 -> c.38.3 devel/libtool,-ltd # 1.5.20 -> 1.5.20p1 devel/pango # c.38.2,intl.2.0 -> c.38.3,intl.3.0 emulators/redhat/motif # 2.1.30p1 -> 2.1.30p2 graphics/flash # c.38.2 -> c.38.3 graphics/imlib2 # c.38.2,libltdl-1.5.20 -> c.38.3,libltdl-1.5.20p1 graphics/jpeg # c.38.2 -> c.38.3 graphics/libungif # c.38.2 -> c.38.3 graphics/tiff # c.38.2 -> c.38.3 lang/ezm3 # c.38.2 -> c.38.3 lang/tcl/8.4 # c.38.2 -> c.38.3 mail/fetchmail # 6.2.5.2p0 -> 6.2.5.2p1 mail/pine # c.38.2 -> c.38.3 net/cvsup,no_x11 # c.38.2 -> c.38.3 net/libdnet # c.38.2 -> c.38.3 net/quirc # c.38.2 -> c.38.3 security/gnupg # 1.4.1p0 -> 1.4.1p1 security/gpgm # gettext-0.10.40p3,gnupg-1.4.1p0,intl.2.0,pthread.6.1 -> gettext-0.14.5,gnupg-1.4.1p1,intl.3.0,pthread.6.2 security/libgpg-error # c.38.2,gettext-0.10.40p3,intl.2.0 -> c.38.3,gettext-0.14.5,intl.3.0 security/scanssh # c.38.2 -> c.38.3 textproc/gdiff # c.38.2,gettext-0.10.40p3,intl.2.0 -> c.38.3,gettext-0.14.5,intl.3.0 www/mozilla-firefox # 1.0.7p2 -> 1.0.7p3 x11/fluxbox # c.38.2 -> c.38.3 x11/gtk+2 # c.38.2,gettext-0.10.40p3,intl.2.0 -> c.38.3,gettext-0.14.5,intl.3.0 x11/openmotif # c.38.2 -> c.38.3 x11/tk/8.4 # c.38.2 -> c.38.3 - -------------------------------------- Not asking for any kind of fix or help on this, just to understand the why of it, like I stated above. Aware that what I did is unsupported. Finally getting insurance money back after hurricane Katrina & first thing on agenda is to buy the new 3.8 cd's. :-) Previously, just experimenting & trying to get to know the system. Have used mostly FreeBSD with portupgrade, portsnap, & so forth. Thanks for any info. Denny White Self-Pity I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself. A small bird will drop frozen dead from a bough without ever having felt sorry for itself. D. H. Lawrence GnuPG key : 0x1644E79A | http://wwwkeys.nl.pgp.net Fingerprint: D0A9 AD44 1F10 E09E 0E67 EC25 CB44 F2E5 1644 E79A iD8DBQFDclmay0Ty5RZE55oRAo65AJsFWZrb6kcY5NH/5SqUN7L2s030ggCeNYdt GI+K2/p+L0tEnrIufZMLHQo= =9sPQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----