> There is the (expensive) Real Weasel for x86 kit, Dell's crappy lights
DRAC/4 isn't that bad >:} You can always use serial console redirection on the 1850s/2850s; it works well until OS boot (BIOS menus works, RAID, IPMI menus), when you have to setup serial console redirection on the boot loader/kernel, and then start a getty on the com. Plus you have hardware level IPMI (cold boots, etc.) which you can tag with a VLAN. It's not Sun, though. ~BAS > out card isn't a reliable option. > > Any thoughts welcome.