> On Jan 29, 2015, at 10:10 AM, Theo de Raadt <dera...@cvs.openbsd.org>
wrote:
>
>> Basically for the sake of automated deployments it would be nice / clean
>> to be able to do :
>>
>> includeservers /path/to/file
>>
>> And then read them all from the file.  And the same file would be used
>> as a table in pf.conf for NTP FW rules.  One server per line.
>>
>> This would make initial deployments easier to automate (no need to
>> programmatically alter the config file), and then if you need to change
>> your NTP servers post-deployment it is cleaner as well with less chance
>> of human error. i.e. changing pf.conf is riskier than changing ntpd.conf
>
> I do not see much value in these nested include mechanisms.  Honestly,
> OpenBSD is now shipping without a ntpd.conf file.  You create this
> file, thus you own it.  Having you create a file (ntpd.conf) which
> points to another file (/etc/serverlist?) you also create, that is
> kind of crazy.
>
> /etc/pf.conf is also on my list for removal as well, so that it
> becomes more of a user-owned file.  The idea here is that you would
> look at the examples, and then create your own, and upgrades /
> sysmerge would not touch your file.
>
> I believe if we do this right, it will prod people towards creating
> narrower role-specific configurations for their machines.
>

having simpler config models, and narrow roles would be a good thing.

-Nex6

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