On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 07:20:24PM +0300, Mihai Popescu wrote: > > Maybe it could evolve into a port/package? > > So, what is the benefit of typing a text in a text box GUI rather than > a terminal? > Again, what is the benefit of displaying a list of wifi networks with > funny beam sign (which tell you nothing, bytheway) rather that read a > dBm result from scan option in terminal? > > That so called GUI will bring you nothing different from a general > confusion. WiFi connect is an utility not a graphical application. >
I'm going to answer that based on my extremely frustrating experiences with my father who no longer has decent short-term memory. I can explain to him, show him, write down for him, etc. how to use dhclient and ifconfig. Over and over. He just can't get that or mounting a flash drive. This is a never ending problem. For example, we travel a lot. What do you do at a hotel with six wifi hotspots with wpa and they are all crap? ifconfig is great. A little too great and informative for him. At this point, he refuses to read manual pages. Too confusing. Perhaps a diff for ifconfig would be helpful. -W wifi only -s simple output (nwid, bssid, almost nothing else) # ifconfig lo0: flags=8049<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 32768 priority: 0 groups: lo inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 xl0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500 lladdr 00:08:74:96:ba:e5 priority: 0 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX full-duplex) status: active inet 192.168.44.111 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.44.255 enc0: flags=0<> priority: 0 groups: enc status: active pflog0: flags=141<UP,RUNNING,PROMISC> mtu 33192 priority: 0 groups: pflog bwi0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500 lladdr 00:16:01:18:d1:9e priority: 4 groups: wlan egress media: IEEE802.11 autoselect (OFDM36 mode 11g) status: active ieee80211: nwid IliumLT500 chan 6 bssid bc:44:34:1e:51:52 40dBm wpakey 0xeb192b9fce29f97cc5c1d9c614ecf663a7370cd655b76e82b01c9111738d1dae wpaprotos wpa1,wpa2 wpaakms psk wpaciphers tkip,ccmp wpagroupcipher tkip inet 192.168.43.71 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.43.255 This is just too much for someone like him too make any sense of. Personally, I hate GUI crap. But there are people who actually NEED it. He is as firmly dedicated to using OpenBSD as I am. I bought a second hand computer that has windows 7 on it. If we bring that up while any USB OpenBSD drives are plugged in, the first thing to appear on the screen is that we need to format those disks! Disturbing. Chris Bennett