Perl is my favorite language, too. Perl can be gnarly but I love it. I have zero experience with Lua so I can’t judge it but I’d like Perl to stay in Base.
On Tuesday, December 31, 2019, Daniel Boyd <danieljb...@icloud.com> wrote: > As one of the few remaining people out there who considers perl to be > their favorite language—starting to wonder if it’s just me and Larry Wall > at this point—I’d like to say that perl should stay in base on its merits, > all the perl-based system tools notwithstanding. > > I decided learn perl because of OpenBSD back in the day. I was a primarily > a java programmer (to be clear: not out of any affinity for Java) and had > decided to use OpenBSD as my workstation OS. I quickly discovered that the > Java development tools I used (netbeans, eclipse, etc.) weren’t all that > robust in OpenBSD (old builds, crashy). So, I figured, OpenBSD users must > not be java programmers and I set out figuring out what language they did > use... by looking to see which languages were in base. > > Fast forward like 15 years and I’m now a perl/vim guy (a far cry from > java/NetBeans!) and I couldn’t be happier. While I tolerated java, I > actually really like perl. And the more I learn of it, the better i like > it. I think a lot of people just haven’t really taken the time to learn > perl’s subtleties and true perlish coding conventions. It’s really > wonderful once you know it well. > > Ok— rant over. Carry on. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Dec 31, 2019, at 12:11 AM, Theo de Raadt <dera...@openbsd.org> wrote: > > > > Marc Espie <es...@nerim.net> wrote: > > > >> Removing perl from base would be very painful. > >> > >> I don't fancy rewriting all the perl tools in something else > (specifically, > >> most of the ports and package infrastructure) > >> > >> lua would definitely NOT be appropriate for that. The only half valid > >> candidate would be python. > >> > >> Contrary to what some people might think, the tools in question won't be > >> easier to understand and manage if written in another language. > >> > > > > Contrary to what you think, the original proposal didn't come out of > > a process called thinking. > > > >
