On Fri, Sep 27, 2024 at 01:26:30PM +0200, Страхиња Радић wrote:
> Дана 24/09/26 11:04AM, Marc Chantreux написа:
> > I don't know how far misc is misc but those kind of threads are those I
> > like to read: examples of code (shell, C, awk, …), unix philosophy and
> > so on.
> 
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> General questions, but related to OpenBSD. The question from the
> opening email is not actually OpenBSD-specific.

Sorry I wasn't clear about "how far misc is misc". I meant I really consider
the unix generic tools, langages and philosophy as a core of any unix
system. I actually think that we should have more spaces to talk about
it. I feel sad when I realize people use complex software just because
they don't understand the genericity of tools like awk, make and so on.

I don't want to talk about C, I want to talk about C the way openBSD
community think about it, use it. get some anectotes on my way.

But as I said: I understand some people have different visions.

> > Also: I really think nothing compares to a decent MUA for those kind of
> > interaction so there is no way I would consider stackexchange as
> > something else than signal noise in my duckduckgo search result.

> There are pros and cons for both mailing lists and websites, but among
> …

Well. there are so many things to discuss there I don't have the time
to dive into it. I really appreciate reading your opinion thu.

> > duckduckgo
> Another fake "privacy-respecting" thing (in this case, search engine),

*this* is out of the scope but really interesting :)

* I try to know sites of interest and use there own search engine
(wikipedia, github, mailing list archives, …)
* I try to avoid google as much as I can
* I look forward any ddg replacement

> > I understand than some people can like web interfaces and it's fine
> > but please don't try to push people away from mailing lists or newsgroups.

> I was only trying to help the OP get a better answer in a place more
> specialized to the kind of question presented.

I fully understood that then I tried to speak for
* those who run away from web on purpose.
* thoes who share the feeling that C is a langage and any community has
  its own dialect.

I value diversity so I really consider Stackoverflow as a giant culture
crusher using a technology which is the exact contrary of the unix philosophy.

I consider the web as a way to private anyone to do anything with the
data we collectively produced. I call it spoliation.

I consider this place as the right place to talk about unix culture and
code (which is a part of openBSD).

please tell me if I'm wrong.

regards

-- 
Marc Chantreux
Pôle CESAR (Calcul et services avancés à la recherche)
Université de Strasbourg
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