On Tue, 5 May 2026, z411 wrote:

Date: Tue, 5 May 2026 12:30:58 -0400 From: z411 <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: mail account @openbsd.com

On 5/5/26 06:20, Roderick wrote:
Gmail was OK at the beginning, but at some point began to send emails from my server to spam. I asked google twice and got no answer. I read and reread their recommendations many times. Till now I do not know why they do it. Probably they do not want people self hosting and make their servers unusable.

I've also hosted my personal mail server for many years and I started noticing that all mails would start going to spam on Gmail recipients. I eventually changed to a new IP and they started working again. The old IP got blacklisted at some point, and while it got whitelisted, its reputation with Gmail probably never recovered.

That said, they still go to spam occasionally with the new clean IP and I have a hard time understanding why. I like mail servers (probably in a minority here) so it's frustrating that I get stopped by external factors, since it seems to be passing rDNS, DKIM and SPF checks.


I have noticed that when I send some log files from my servers to gmail, they get flagged as spam. I guess that they think that a server with no regular users is not considered to be a legitimate source of mail.

I have often wondered why so few e-mail servers use IPv6. From what I have read, gmail is one of the few that can use IPv6, but if you send e-mail to gmail using IPv6, the messages are treated as spam. I readily admit that I have not tested this myself, yet.

It could be worse, though. I don't thnk that many people realize that you can sometimes send e-mail to SMS messages on your cell phone. For verizon, you just send it to the telephone number @vtext.com or @vzwpix.com. For example, if you telephone number as (123) 456-7890 with Verizon, you would send it to [email protected]. It is limited to 140 characters. The big problem was that after something like 4 or 5 messages, it would filter them out. That makes gmail look much better in comparison.

Eric

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