On 5 Jun 2006, at 23:05, Spruell, Darren-Perot wrote:

> Recent FreeBSD has WPA(2?) support or you could pick up a $50 WAP
> to provide
> it too. Don't know if there's anything with good security and good
> ease-of-client-setup outside of that...

It's always the trade-off between ease of use and security.  More of
one usually means less of another, and vice versa.  It looks like
FreeBSD sort of do WPA with wpa_supplicant, and combine that with
hostap, it could do.

One way or another, the system requires some wireless kit, so it's a
case of spend ages hunting for a PCI card that works with OpenBSD or
FreeBSD, or just spend #10 more and get an AP that does it all anyway.

On 5 Jun 2006, at 23:40, Stuart Henderson wrote:

> Although a VPN is a possibility, I'm thinking more along the lines of
> a wireless hotspot than an extended network.
>
> Turn off encryption unless you want to give a false impression
> of security. WPA is still subject to ARP poisoning attacks from
> users on the network.

If somebody is determined to get in, they will.  If they want to cock
about with the network too, there's little I can actually do to stop
that.  I just want to make some sort of effort.  I think the way
forward is to go with the strongest encryption that just a password
can give, and tell users to make use of some stronger means of
security, along with some basic information.  Not too much though,
don't want to scare them off...

> Walk around the average town for half an hour with a z/laptop
> running kismet and see just how many people worked out how to set
> up encryption on their own networks...

Surely this works in my favour?  Because there's such a plethora of
easy targets, any target putting up a better than average defence
(but by no means uncrackable), they'll go for the softer target.  I
would.

Gaby

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