> -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Jacob Yocom-Piatt > Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 11:38 AM > To: misc@openbsd.org > Subject: Re: News From HiFn > > >And yet, in his long-winded exasperated way, he's right. No one likes a > >whiner, especially in Theo's position. > > > > nobody may like the whiner, but that makes the whiner no less correct. > > >I had respect for Theo before the American comment. It was unnecessary, > >out of line, and damaging to the OBSD effort as a whole. You couldn't > >make your point without getting ugly, eh? > > > > i am myself american and feel that theo's comment about praising the > company is > spot on. corporations should not be praised for responding to their > customers' > complaints, the complainers, a.k.a. the whiners, should be the ones > praised, for > without them the corporation would have shot itself in the foot. this > whole > attitude is propagated by merit of the "peonified" US consumer who only > wishes > they could be acknowledged, much less praised, by large corporations. > > the only thing that is large scale and grassroots here in the US is grass > that > is fertilized by large corporations. go figure. get long natural gas > because > this isn't going to end anytime soon ;). > > >Showing pride and emotion for your cause is honorable- showing hatred > >reveals your smallness. How embarrassing. > > > > or your short-sightedness and "patriotism". > > >Dan Farrell > >Applied Innovations > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >'the first man to raise his fists is the first man to run out of ideas'
I didn't have a problem with his actual argument per se... it was the delivery. Insulting rhetoric has no place in a civilized debate. I actually agreed with him, until he thought that all of this is just 'American.' It's actually 'capitalistic', and America isn't the only country in on that game. In short, a more mature attitude in presenting arguments would serve to promote OpenBSD... it's not a punk solution, and deserves more than a punk response to problem situations. No wonder OpenBSD has such difficulty in raising money or respect in the industry it was meant to operate in. And that's a sad statement-- it's a damn good product.