Hi,
Whilst I fully acknowledge the stigmatism that goes with java, I'm
very grateful to Kurt et. al. for making it run under OpenBSD. It has
saved me from having to admin extra linux/solaris boxes many times,
when customers insist on java. I'm also looking forward to merely
pkg_add'ing it instead of the playing "hunt the patch after license
clicking" that was previously necessary.
Nice work ! Appreciated.
/Pete
On 15 Oct 2008, at 02:06, Kurt Miller wrote:
On Tuesday 14 October 2008 11:13:41 am new_guy wrote:
Ben Adams-3 wrote:
Just wondering if this will effect OpenBSD with java:
Per the interim governance guidelines for Projects [1] I'm pleased
to announce the creation of the BSD Port Project....
Java is nasty. There... I said it and it is true. The goopy OOP of
Java will
tarnish anything it touches. Personally, I hope Java (in all of its
virtual
glory) never makes it into OpenBSD at all. Real men will cry man
tears when
OpenBSD ships with Java.
Uninformed. We've had Java for years and now we have packages:
ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/packages/i386/jdk-1.7.0.00b24p2.tgz
4.4 will have packages also.
Your negativity sucks. Porting Java to OpenBSD was and is not
a trivial effort. It also serves as an excellent test bed for
threads, the runtime linker and large memory applications.
Porting Java to OpenBSD enabled the LOCKSS project to use it
for its noble goals. It uncovered deadlocks in our pthread
lib that resulted in large improvements to libpthread. Its use
of dlopen() and friends resulted in significant improvements
in our runtime linker. Oh and who made those improvements???
The same person who took the time to port Java to OpenBSD!! Me
and other OpenBSD developers who saw the need to improve things.
BTW, all those system level improvements have made significant
stability gains for applications like firefox, KDE, OpenOffice,
Asterisk, etc, etc which all use threads and dlopen() alot.
Quite frankly I'm pretty upset at all the 'Java sucks' banter on
misc. If you and the other naysayers don't realize that porting
Java to OpenBSD was a 'Good-Thing' then you are just UNINFORMED!
-Kurt
