Speaking of donation money,
reading http://accounting.kd85.com/
We see this mentioned:
"some went to funeral costs (Itojun)."
Why would money that was directed to go to the OpenBSD project be
used for this? especially when at the time it was made pretty clear that
it should not be.
We (the developers) at the time certainly SENT money for a friend.
But at the time I objected to using OpenBSD money or a donation
account for this. We wanted it completely clear that the money we were
sending was coming from us personally, in memory of a super great guy
and as a token of respect to his family. At the time, both Myself and
Theo objected to this, stating it was not fair to use money donated to
fund the project for this. The money had to come from us personally.
So. How much donation money was sent for Itojuns funeral, and in this
case was it "donation" money for openbsd, or was this money from the
developers:
The email exchange about this at the time is below, when I expressed
my concern about mixing up donations to OpenBSD with money being sent
from a developer to a friend. Wim's answer to this was terse and rude
and basically that I "did not understand accounting in europe", and to
"shut the fuck up because I did not understand banking". Then it goes
on to mention that "personal money" was being put up to "front" this?
So, what was it? Money from developers sent for a friend that had
nothing to do with OpenBSD? Money from OpenBSD donations? or "personal
money from wim?" - since OpenBSD donations weren't supposed to go to this why
is this now mentioned here?
Stranger and stranger.
-Bob
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Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 16:10:37 -0700
From: Bob Beck <beck>
To: Marco Peereboom <ma...@peereboom.us>, hack...@openbsd.org
Subject: Re: Itojun, and sending our regards.
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Ok, here's the deal.
Ryan is dealing with the show on the ground in japan.
We will be sending flowers and condolence money to the family.
based upon the number of people expresssing interest, I would
suggest $20 as a minimum. if you can afford more and would like to, that
is fine too.
Send your bit by paypal to mcbr...@countersiege.com
If you don't have paypal, find someone who does and coordinate
with them. this will be easiest on short notice.
I've already sent mine.
* Bob Beck <b...@bofh.cns.ualberta.ca> [2007-11-05 09:51]:
>
> Please be patient. I am attempting to finalize details.
> I will let you all know.
>
> -Bob
>
>
> * Marco Peereboom <ma...@peereboom.us> [2007-11-05 07:38]:
> > How and where do we send money to?
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 10:40:10AM -0700, Bob Beck wrote:
> > >
> > > As some of you know, Theo is going to Itojun's funeral
> > > on Nov 7.
> > >
> > > The tradition in Japan is that friends may send flowers with a
> > > message, and the tradition is also to collect an offering for the
> > > family. (funerals in japan are the most expensive on the planet) Ryan
> > > Mcbride has done the legwork for us in getting together 6 flower
> > > arrangements from OpenBSD.
> > >
> > > I imagine some of you who knew and worked with itojun
> > > may be interested in contributing - we might be asking for
> > > in the neighborhood of 20 dollars or whatever. I will post again
> > > soon with more details as I find them, this is mainly just a heads
> > > up, and a find out how many of you may be interested. Full details
> > > will likely wait until theo is on the ground in japan and has
> > > talked to a few people about what is proper.
> > >
> > > -Bob
> >
>
> --
> #!/usr/bin/perl
> if ((not 0 && not 1) != (! 0 && ! 1)) {
> print "Larry and Tom must smoke some really primo stuff...\n";
> }
>
--
#!/usr/bin/perl
if ((not 0 && not 1) != (! 0 && ! 1)) {
print "Larry and Tom must smoke some really primo stuff...\n";
}
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From: Wim Vandeputte <w...@kd85.com>
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Subject: Re: Itojun, and sending our regards.
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for those in the Euro Zone, just wire the EUR 15 to the donation account
and I'll transfer the lump sum to the paypall account
IBAN BE93737017743767
BIC KREDBEBB
Name: OpenBSD
Address: Oostveld Kouter 13
9920 Lovendegem
Belgium
mail me when you do
On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 04:10:37PM -0700, Bob Beck wrote:
> Ok, here's the deal.
>
> Ryan is dealing with the show on the ground in japan.
>
> We will be sending flowers and condolence money to the family.
>
> based upon the number of people expresssing interest, I would
> suggest $20 as a minimum. if you can afford more and would like to, that
> is fine too.
>
> Send your bit by paypal to mcbr...@countersiege.com
>
> If you don't have paypal, find someone who does and coordinate
> with them. this will be easiest on short notice.
>
> I've already sent mine.
>
>
> * Bob Beck <b...@bofh.cns.ualberta.ca> [2007-11-05 09:51]:
> >
> > Please be patient. I am attempting to finalize details.
> > I will let you all know.
> >
> > -Bob
> >
> >
> > * Marco Peereboom <ma...@peereboom.us> [2007-11-05 07:38]:
> > > How and where do we send money to?
> > >
> > > On Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 10:40:10AM -0700, Bob Beck wrote:
> > > >
> > > > As some of you know, Theo is going to Itojun's funeral
> > > > on Nov 7.
> > > >
> > > > The tradition in Japan is that friends may send flowers with a
> > > > message, and the tradition is also to collect an offering for the
> > > > family. (funerals in japan are the most expensive on the planet) Ryan
> > > > Mcbride has done the legwork for us in getting together 6 flower
> > > > arrangements from OpenBSD.
> > > >
> > > > I imagine some of you who knew and worked with itojun
> > > > may be interested in contributing - we might be asking for
> > > > in the neighborhood of 20 dollars or whatever. I will post again
> > > > soon with more details as I find them, this is mainly just a heads
> > > > up, and a find out how many of you may be interested. Full details
> > > > will likely wait until theo is on the ground in japan and has
> > > > talked to a few people about what is proper.
> > > >
> > > > -Bob
> > >
> >
> > --
> > #!/usr/bin/perl
> > if ((not 0 && not 1) != (! 0 && ! 1)) {
> > print "Larry and Tom must smoke some really primo stuff...\n";
> > }
> >
>
> --
> #!/usr/bin/perl
> if ((not 0 && not 1) != (! 0 && ! 1)) {
> print "Larry and Tom must smoke some really primo stuff...\n";
> }
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Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 17:11:05 -0700
From: Bob Beck <beck>
To: Wim Vandeputte <w...@kd85.com>
Cc: hack...@openbsd.org
Subject: Re: Itojun, and sending our regards.
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Wim, why complicate matters. Is this what I just asked people to do?
Now we're going to mix OpenBSD developers giving personal
money to something for a friend, with money that is recieved for OpenBSD?
Guys, this is doing something for a friend, it is not donations
for openbsd. Please just paypal ryan directly.
-Bob
* Wim Vandeputte <w...@kd85.com> [2007-11-05 16:25]:
>
> for those in the Euro Zone, just wire the EUR 15 to the donation account
> and I'll transfer the lump sum to the paypall account
>
> IBAN BE93737017743767
> BIC KREDBEBB
>
> Name: OpenBSD
> Address: Oostveld Kouter 13
> 9920 Lovendegem
> Belgium
>
> mail me when you do
>
> On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 04:10:37PM -0700, Bob Beck wrote:
> > Ok, here's the deal.
> >
> > Ryan is dealing with the show on the ground in japan.
> >
> > We will be sending flowers and condolence money to the family.
> >
> > based upon the number of people expresssing interest, I would
> > suggest $20 as a minimum. if you can afford more and would like to, that
> > is fine too.
> >
> > Send your bit by paypal to mcbr...@countersiege.com
> >
> > If you don't have paypal, find someone who does and coordinate
> > with them. this will be easiest on short notice.
> >
> > I've already sent mine.
> >
> >
> > * Bob Beck <b...@bofh.cns.ualberta.ca> [2007-11-05 09:51]:
> > >
> > > Please be patient. I am attempting to finalize details.
> > > I will let you all know.
> > >
> > > -Bob
> > >
> > >
> > > * Marco Peereboom <ma...@peereboom.us> [2007-11-05 07:38]:
> > > > How and where do we send money to?
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 10:40:10AM -0700, Bob Beck wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > As some of you know, Theo is going to Itojun's funeral
> > > > > on Nov 7.
> > > > >
> > > > > The tradition in Japan is that friends may send flowers with a
> > > > > message, and the tradition is also to collect an offering for the
> > > > > family. (funerals in japan are the most expensive on the planet) Ryan
> > > > > Mcbride has done the legwork for us in getting together 6 flower
> > > > > arrangements from OpenBSD.
> > > > >
> > > > > I imagine some of you who knew and worked with itojun
> > > > > may be interested in contributing - we might be asking for
> > > > > in the neighborhood of 20 dollars or whatever. I will post again
> > > > > soon with more details as I find them, this is mainly just a heads
> > > > > up, and a find out how many of you may be interested. Full details
> > > > > will likely wait until theo is on the ground in japan and has
> > > > > talked to a few people about what is proper.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Bob
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > #!/usr/bin/perl
> > > if ((not 0 && not 1) != (! 0 && ! 1)) {
> > > print "Larry and Tom must smoke some really primo stuff...\n";
> > > }
> > >
> >
> > --
> > #!/usr/bin/perl
> > if ((not 0 && not 1) != (! 0 && ! 1)) {
> > print "Larry and Tom must smoke some really primo stuff...\n";
> > }
>
> --
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>
> https://kd85.com/notforsale.html
>
> --
>
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Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 17:16:00 -0700
From: Bob Beck <beck>
To: Wim Vandeputte <w...@kd85.com>
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Subject: Re: Itojun, and sending our regards.
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You screwing around waiting for a lump sum means ryan
can't judge how much has come in. Will you please stop sticking your
nose into this? Please encourage people to just send the money to
ryan directly, instead of having ryan wait for you. Unless you are
talking to ryan about this, please stop doing this. you are just
making everyone's life difficult for this. Please tell people to
paypal ryan directly. There is no need to mix *donation* money for
openbsd with *personal* money from a developer to another developer.
-Bob
* Wim Vandeputte <w...@kd85.com> [2007-11-05 16:25]:
>
> for those in the Euro Zone, just wire the EUR 15 to the donation account
> and I'll transfer the lump sum to the paypall account
>
> IBAN BE93737017743767
> BIC KREDBEBB
>
> Name: OpenBSD
> Address: Oostveld Kouter 13
> 9920 Lovendegem
> Belgium
>
> mail me when you do
>
> On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 04:10:37PM -0700, Bob Beck wrote:
> > Ok, here's the deal.
> >
> > Ryan is dealing with the show on the ground in japan.
> >
> > We will be sending flowers and condolence money to the family.
> >
> > based upon the number of people expresssing interest, I would
> > suggest $20 as a minimum. if you can afford more and would like to, that
> > is fine too.
> >
> > Send your bit by paypal to mcbr...@countersiege.com
> >
> > If you don't have paypal, find someone who does and coordinate
> > with them. this will be easiest on short notice.
> >
> > I've already sent mine.
> >
> >
> > * Bob Beck <b...@bofh.cns.ualberta.ca> [2007-11-05 09:51]:
> > >
> > > Please be patient. I am attempting to finalize details.
> > > I will let you all know.
> > >
> > > -Bob
> > >
> > >
> > > * Marco Peereboom <ma...@peereboom.us> [2007-11-05 07:38]:
> > > > How and where do we send money to?
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 10:40:10AM -0700, Bob Beck wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > As some of you know, Theo is going to Itojun's funeral
> > > > > on Nov 7.
> > > > >
> > > > > The tradition in Japan is that friends may send flowers with a
> > > > > message, and the tradition is also to collect an offering for the
> > > > > family. (funerals in japan are the most expensive on the planet) Ryan
> > > > > Mcbride has done the legwork for us in getting together 6 flower
> > > > > arrangements from OpenBSD.
> > > > >
> > > > > I imagine some of you who knew and worked with itojun
> > > > > may be interested in contributing - we might be asking for
> > > > > in the neighborhood of 20 dollars or whatever. I will post again
> > > > > soon with more details as I find them, this is mainly just a heads
> > > > > up, and a find out how many of you may be interested. Full details
> > > > > will likely wait until theo is on the ground in japan and has
> > > > > talked to a few people about what is proper.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Bob
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > #!/usr/bin/perl
> > > if ((not 0 && not 1) != (! 0 && ! 1)) {
> > > print "Larry and Tom must smoke some really primo stuff...\n";
> > > }
> > >
> >
> > --
> > #!/usr/bin/perl
> > if ((not 0 && not 1) != (! 0 && ! 1)) {
> > print "Larry and Tom must smoke some really primo stuff...\n";
> > }
>
> --
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>
> https://kd85.com/notforsale.html
>
> --
>
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you completly don't understand banking in Europe.
On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 05:11:05PM -0700, Bob Beck wrote:
>
> Wim, why complicate matters. Is this what I just asked people to do?
>
> Now we're going to mix OpenBSD developers giving personal
> money to something for a friend, with money that is recieved for OpenBSD?
>
> Guys, this is doing something for a friend, it is not donations
> for openbsd. Please just paypal ryan directly.
>
> -Bob
>
>
> * Wim Vandeputte <w...@kd85.com> [2007-11-05 16:25]:
> >
> > for those in the Euro Zone, just wire the EUR 15 to the donation account
> > and I'll transfer the lump sum to the paypall account
> >
> > IBAN BE93737017743767
> > BIC KREDBEBB
> >
> > Name: OpenBSD
> > Address: Oostveld Kouter 13
> > 9920 Lovendegem
> > Belgium
> >
> > mail me when you do
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 04:10:37PM -0700, Bob Beck wrote:
> > > Ok, here's the deal.
> > >
> > > Ryan is dealing with the show on the ground in japan.
> > >
> > > We will be sending flowers and condolence money to the family.
> > >
> > > based upon the number of people expresssing interest, I would
> > > suggest $20 as a minimum. if you can afford more and would like to, that
> > > is fine too.
> > >
> > > Send your bit by paypal to mcbr...@countersiege.com
> > >
> > > If you don't have paypal, find someone who does and coordinate
> > > with them. this will be easiest on short notice.
> > >
> > > I've already sent mine.
> > >
> > >
> > > * Bob Beck <b...@bofh.cns.ualberta.ca> [2007-11-05 09:51]:
> > > >
> > > > Please be patient. I am attempting to finalize details.
> > > > I will let you all know.
> > > >
> > > > -Bob
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > * Marco Peereboom <ma...@peereboom.us> [2007-11-05 07:38]:
> > > > > How and where do we send money to?
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 10:40:10AM -0700, Bob Beck wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As some of you know, Theo is going to Itojun's funeral
> > > > > > on Nov 7.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The tradition in Japan is that friends may send flowers with a
> > > > > > message, and the tradition is also to collect an offering for the
> > > > > > family. (funerals in japan are the most expensive on the planet)
> > > > > > Ryan
> > > > > > Mcbride has done the legwork for us in getting together 6 flower
> > > > > > arrangements from OpenBSD.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I imagine some of you who knew and worked with itojun
> > > > > > may be interested in contributing - we might be asking for
> > > > > > in the neighborhood of 20 dollars or whatever. I will post again
> > > > > > soon with more details as I find them, this is mainly just a heads
> > > > > > up, and a find out how many of you may be interested. Full details
> > > > > > will likely wait until theo is on the ground in japan and has
> > > > > > talked to a few people about what is proper.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Bob
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > #!/usr/bin/perl
> > > > if ((not 0 && not 1) != (! 0 && ! 1)) {
> > > > print "Larry and Tom must smoke some really primo stuff...\n";
> > > > }
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > #!/usr/bin/perl
> > > if ((not 0 && not 1) != (! 0 && ! 1)) {
> > > print "Larry and Tom must smoke some really primo stuff...\n";
> > > }
> >
> > --
> >
> > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> > https://kd85.com/notforsale.html
> >
> > --
> >
>
> --
> #!/usr/bin/perl
> if ((not 0 && not 1) != (! 0 && ! 1)) {
> print "Larry and Tom must smoke some really primo stuff...\n";
> }
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To: Bob Beck <b...@bofh.cns.ualberta.ca>
Subject: Re: Itojun, and sending our regards.
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Bob,
if you don't understand accounting in Europe, just shut the fuck up.
I just offered to pre-fund those payments from Europe, if you don't appreciate
me putting up my personal money to pay this, then just medle it in , just
say so
k
On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 05:16:00PM -0700, Bob Beck wrote:
>
> You screwing around waiting for a lump sum means ryan
> can't judge how much has come in. Will you please stop sticking your
> nose into this? Please encourage people to just send the money to
> ryan directly, instead of having ryan wait for you. Unless you are
> talking to ryan about this, please stop doing this. you are just
> making everyone's life difficult for this. Please tell people to
> paypal ryan directly. There is no need to mix *donation* money for
> openbsd with *personal* money from a developer to another developer.
>
> -Bob
>
> * Wim Vandeputte <w...@kd85.com> [2007-11-05 16:25]:
> >
> > for those in the Euro Zone, just wire the EUR 15 to the donation account
> > and I'll transfer the lump sum to the paypall account
> >
> > IBAN BE93737017743767
> > BIC KREDBEBB
> >
> > Name: OpenBSD
> > Address: Oostveld Kouter 13
> > 9920 Lovendegem
> > Belgium
> >
> > mail me when you do
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 04:10:37PM -0700, Bob Beck wrote:
> > > Ok, here's the deal.
> > >
> > > Ryan is dealing with the show on the ground in japan.
> > >
> > > We will be sending flowers and condolence money to the family.
> > >
> > > based upon the number of people expresssing interest, I would
> > > suggest $20 as a minimum. if you can afford more and would like to, that
> > > is fine too.
> > >
> > > Send your bit by paypal to mcbr...@countersiege.com
> > >
> > > If you don't have paypal, find someone who does and coordinate
> > > with them. this will be easiest on short notice.
> > >
> > > I've already sent mine.
> > >
> > >
> > > * Bob Beck <b...@bofh.cns.ualberta.ca> [2007-11-05 09:51]:
> > > >
> > > > Please be patient. I am attempting to finalize details.
> > > > I will let you all know.
> > > >
> > > > -Bob
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > * Marco Peereboom <ma...@peereboom.us> [2007-11-05 07:38]:
> > > > > How and where do we send money to?
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 10:40:10AM -0700, Bob Beck wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As some of you know, Theo is going to Itojun's funeral
> > > > > > on Nov 7.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The tradition in Japan is that friends may send flowers with a
> > > > > > message, and the tradition is also to collect an offering for the
> > > > > > family. (funerals in japan are the most expensive on the planet)
> > > > > > Ryan
> > > > > > Mcbride has done the legwork for us in getting together 6 flower
> > > > > > arrangements from OpenBSD.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I imagine some of you who knew and worked with itojun
> > > > > > may be interested in contributing - we might be asking for
> > > > > > in the neighborhood of 20 dollars or whatever. I will post again
> > > > > > soon with more details as I find them, this is mainly just a heads
> > > > > > up, and a find out how many of you may be interested. Full details
> > > > > > will likely wait until theo is on the ground in japan and has
> > > > > > talked to a few people about what is proper.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Bob
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > #!/usr/bin/perl
> > > > if ((not 0 && not 1) != (! 0 && ! 1)) {
> > > > print "Larry and Tom must smoke some really primo stuff...\n";
> > > > }
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > #!/usr/bin/perl
> > > if ((not 0 && not 1) != (! 0 && ! 1)) {
> > > print "Larry and Tom must smoke some really primo stuff...\n";
> > > }
> >
> > --
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> > https://kd85.com/notforsale.html
> >
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> >
>
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> #!/usr/bin/perl
> if ((not 0 && not 1) != (! 0 && ! 1)) {
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> }
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I have no idea what this is about.
Bob just suggested that people find a way to send small amounts to
Ryan's account, for flowers that are already prepaid. total he needs
is just about 300 more, since Bob and I already covered the rest.
It's just to be nice to itojun's family because japanese funerals
are expensive; we're doing it to fit into the japanese way of doing
the honourable thing at a funeral.
and now it has anger and yelling involved. I don't understand this at
all.
I really don't know at all where this is coming from.
I'm here to honour itojun, so I don't know why any kind of fighting like
this has to happen now.
I think Bob layed out a very simple way so that a few poeple could do this.
Ryan just needs to not go broke living in an expensive place..
but this stuff should stay seperate from donations; it is not right to mix
it into that. It's not what itojun would have wanted, I think.
We should let people do this in the simplest way
Oh you should see how openbsd and cheo de raadto look in kanji.......
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>Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 01:52:47 +0100
>From: Wim Vandeputte <w...@kd85.com>
>To: Bob Beck <b...@bofh.cns.ualberta.ca>, dera...@openbsd.org,
> aus...@openbsd.org
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>Wel,
>
>if it's going to be like this kind of crap then consider me out of the
>picture for the next 30 days for wherever you guys had planned
>
>
>I just volountered to cough up on my personal account whatever
>had to be paid for project and expenses for the funeral but if it's not
>appreceated, I can take my fund somewhere else where they are needed, like
>paying of goverment debts on my side... there is plenty of that to go
>around anyways
>
>Don't count on my for the next month to pay any bills then or show up
>at hitlercon 2007
>
>bye, see you in 2008
>
>
>On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 05:46:51PM -0700, Bob Beck wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > wtf if wrong with you
>>
>> hey. you're the one who left icb in a huff, and then
>> told me to fuck off.
>>
>>
>> > Why do I even have to take this kindf of abuse from you?
>>
>> Hey, you tell me to fuck off, I'm going give as good
>> as I get.
>>
>> -Bob
>
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