>>> I only have one small question left if I may. I do see plenty of changes >>> from Henning and others on this and still plenty going in pf in CVS. >>> I am not sure I follow it all yet and may be it's because it's not all >>> finish, but scrub isn't going to be remove all together from pf is it? >>> >>> I am not clear as to what part of scrub is changing or being removed. >>> >>> Can just a quick summary, or even one line answer provide some details as >>> to what is actually being removed, or changed from it? >>> >>> I can wait until the man page is changed too, but I wonder what is it >>> actually really going on there if I may?
> Theo de Raadt wrote: >> >> I don't understand the question. >> >> If you don't like change, don't ever upgrade. > > Theo, 2009/4/9 Daniel Ouellet <dan...@presscom.net>: > > I don't know where you go that Idea? I NEVER say here I didn't like > change??? I simply asked what it was so that I can understand it better. > > I said I didn't follow it fully yet. > > I wanted to understand it better before I upgrade some servers to current as > I do regularly. > > I like to fully understand what I do before I do it. > > You definitely miss understood my question here big time! > > Relax men. I sure can understand your threshold is pretty low these days, > but I am not the one that cheated on money with you and the project, that's > Win! So, don't take your frustration that I sure understand to well on me, > or if that actually helps you, then please do so. I can take it. > > It's a simple question as I am not sure I fully understand the changes it > does yet, that's all. Like I said, I sure can wait for the man page changes > too. > > Hope this help you revise your thinking on this one. > > Sorry it give you grief however. Daniel, That was a bit of a dick move. To recap: - Dirk hinted that scrub was about to change: http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=123910267606671&w=2 - In response, Stuart posted two links which should have given you and me and everybody paying attention all the explanation needed about what was about to change: http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=123917995320021&w=2 - Joe and Henning even posted working examples: http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=123919691411116&w=2 http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=123919875714273&w=2 - Then you posted the message quoted at the top, which seemed to say that you either were seriously not getting what was quite clearly and unambiguously explained in the aforesaid links and examples, or that you were resistant to change. - Probably giving you the benefit of the doubt, Theo probably assumed the latter and wrote that he was baffled by it. There is nothing strange or overly emotional about that. Theo gave a perfectly reasonable reply to an unreasonable question, given that you already had two good answers right under your nose, and with added examples to boot. You then making insinuations about Theo's state of mind and stirring the Wim affair shitpot was just uncalled for. I know you've probably been around here much longer than me, and unlike me aren't broke and are probably giving back, and are possibly generally much more competent than me, but I still feel that that was uncalled for. And since you were talking about frustration: Reading your message frustrated ME. </venting> regards, --ropers
