On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 07:34:15PM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> 
> shit which comes out of research organizations all tends to suck these
> days, doesn't it.  or perhaps it always did (OSI networking, ipv6,
> same same).
> 

You forgot the lovely stuff that comes out of commercial partnerships! They
too, could do with having a few axe murderers present! (* from 3GPP, but
perhaps IMS in particular? :-)

Tor

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