On Thu, 31 Jul 2025, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote:

This message is the start of an effort to research just how the BIG MAIL
operators treat SMTP mail from small outfits like nxdomain.no and friends.

Related problem - 90% of the spam on my email server is from gmail.
I need to make them whitelist only.  But need a system where senders
get a response telling them how to request whitelisting.


These complementary problems are both the result of massive
centralization.  My "baby-step" advice to non-tech email users: "get
your own domain".  Even if you continue to use gmail or a smaller
provider (registrars generally offer reasonable personal email), having your own domain means you can switch providers - letting
capitalism do its thing.  There is no such thing as "free" email.
You are paying for it one way or another.


We have seen GOOG and to a lesser extent MSFT, YHOO mail exchangers seem to
accept messages from our domains for delivery, only to have them not turn
up in the intended inboxes after all or at best land in the users spam folders.

I am pondering starting a campaign to collect war stories with as much log data
and other relevant data as possible in order to write an article which may
evolve to something else.

Microsoft often disappears emails from me to hotmail.  What kind of
documentation do you need?


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