>From: "Steven M. Schultz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 ...
 >
 >      Downscaling feels more correct.  Removing information is preferable
 >      to synthesizing it.

(But in this case you may end up removing more information than you would
 have started with by taking the synthesis route.)

 >> may not matter much, though. In any case, you will get proper aspect ratio
 >> only if you scale by the correct SAR value: 10:11 in case of NTSC. So
 >
 >      Ah, but if you read Martin Sitter's DVD Studio Pro book (or take a look
 >      at books on Adobe Photoshop) it would seem that NTSC TVs use 9:10

I guess Martin Sitter read a lot of books on Photoshop, instead of reading
 books on video engineering.  NTSC TV's use 10:11 (as referenced to the
 "industry standard" square pixel aspect ratio).

 >> 640x480 --> 704x480 or 720x540 --> 704x480, if you prefer 540. This need
 >> to scale in both directions is another reason to keep away from 720x540.
 >
 >      But since DVDs are 720x480 there's no scaling in the horizontal
 >      dimension - that stays at 720.

Selva's point is that "720x540" is a 4:3 frame using 1:1 pixels, but,
 "720x480" is *not* a 4:3 frame using NTSC pixels.

 >> Very confusing indeed;) Take a look at Aho's page (the link above), you 
 >> may find some logic behind all those convoluted and confusing standards.
 >
 >      I've seen that - it didn't say anything about the source of my
 >      confusion (where'd 9:10 and 720x486 come from? ;)) and Matto's 
 >      http://www.mir.com/DMG/aspect.html

9:10 probably came from reading tea leaves.
The difference between 9:10 and 10:11 is 1 percent -- I doubt that anyone's
 TV set has its horizontal and vertical sizes adjusted to 1% precision.

(I adjust the H/V size of my monitor to millimeter precision using a ruler,
 but I am sometimes described as "misunderstood".)

 >      Guess I'll have to try both sizes with a DVD using overlay highlights 
 >      and see if the books are correct about a misalignment when using
 >      720x540 instead of 720x534 ;)

Hmm... it is, of course, completely possible that the people who wrote the
 standard for "DVD" decided that everything was referenced to some mythical
 "720x534" frame size....  :^P

-matt m.


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