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From: A2_16v <[email protected]>
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Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 5:00 PM
Subject: A2_16v V1 #1647


>
> A2_16v          Thursday, February 10 2000          Volume 01 : Number
1647
>
>
>
> Re: 10.1" Brake Conversion
> Re: Shifter alignment tool
> Re: Various engine building questions...
> Re: Re: Fuel Delivery
> RE: Various engine building questions...
> Re: 10.1" Brake Conversion
> Re: Re: Various engine building questions...
> Re: 10.1" Brake Conversion
> worn piston rings
> Re: Various engine building questions...
> RE: Various engine building questions...
> RE: (Kent 258 Cams/Dyno) Fuel Pressure/Delivery
> Re: Various engine building questions...
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 13:50:36 EST
> From: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: 10.1" Brake Conversion
>
> You may want to be sure that you don't have them already.  Some of the
late
> '89 GLI(GTX)s had the 10.1" front brakes.
>
> - -Dave
> '91 GTX 16V
>
>
> In a message dated 2/10/00 12:21:22 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> [email protected] writes:
>
> > What is necessary to upgrade from 9.4" disks to 10.1"?
> >
> >  TIA,
> >  Mark Reda.
> >  89 Jetta GTX 16V
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> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 12:51:34 -0600
> From: brd <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Shifter alignment tool
>
> I put this on my page, near the bottom:
>
> http://members.home.net/vwbrd/reverse_lockout.html
>
> Brian
>
> On Thu, Feb 10, 2000 at 11:23:31AM -0500, Ryan Lewandowski wrote:
> > I'm planning on rebuilding my shifter this weekend.  Does anyone have
the
> > measurements for the alignment tool (VW tool number 3104) that I'll need
to
> > get everything aligned just right?  The parts places I usually go to
around
> > here don't have it.  I thought I saw a little graphic of it somewhere on
the
> > internet once.
> >
> > Ryan Lewandowski
> > [email protected]
> > http://www.rit.edu/~mrl8550
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 10:59:33 PST
> From: "vw racer" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Various engine building questions...
>
> But then it would cost even more to upgrade them. Personnally, no matter
> what kind of car I own, I'll have to modify it atleast somewhat.
>
> The E30 M3: SuperSprint Exhaust and header with dual DTM tips, Dinan or
> Turner Chip,cams, etc etc  17" TSW Hock R's
>
> Audi: Depends which one but probably BBS Rx 's or RC's, or ABT's in a 17
or
> 18". And more of the same mods. Upgraded turbo, splitter etc etc
>
> I really need to win the Lotto!! Then I'd need a small shack of a house
and
> a huge Dealership sized garage, and it would be pristine.
>
> Fred 92 GLI 16V 2035
>
>
> >From: [email protected]
> >To: [email protected]
> >Subject: Re: Various engine building questions...
> >Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 13:47:24 EST
> >
> >Ben, I think that if I had that kind of expendable income, I would be
> >driving
> >an Audi or an E30 M3.  As would most of the rest of us.
> >
> >-Dave
> >'91 GTX 16V
> >
> >
> >In a message dated 2/10/00 9:50:25 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[email protected]
> >writes:
> >
> > > > From: "vw racer" <[email protected]>
> > >  >
> > >  > spend $100
> > >  > at a machine shop and have them balance all bottom-end parts. It's
> >worth
> > > it
> > >  > for the peice of mind.
> > >
> > >  more than that too...the engine will be smoother, and if things are
> > >  lightened a bit, youll see a little bump in power too.
> > >
> > >  > I also recommend using ARP rod-bolts, ARP main bolts
> > >  > arent really worth it on a VW, since they rarely fail.
> > >
> > >  agreed on the main bolts.  unless you are a racer and are constantly
> > >  pulling the head off the engine, stock stretch bolts are the way to
go.
> > >  besides the fact that they are WAY cheaper and dont have to be
> > >  retightened, they will hold the head down with a more consistent
> >tension
> > >  at each bolt.  (which, if you are covering all bases, makes it less
> > >  likely to bolw the gasket down the road)
> > >
> > >  as for the swap...change the motormounts.  there is *no* easier time.
> > >  the front subframe bushings too...theyre like 1.50 a piece, and can
> >make
> > >  a huge difference.  a few other suggestions:  change the clutch too.
a
> > >  year is a year, and theyre only $110 for the whole clutch kit.  get
the
> > >  flywheel lightened and resurfaced.  flip and rebuild your CV's.  get
> > >  your injectors cleaned/flowed.  (then replace, if necessary)  and
> > >  replace all the injector seals and lower seats too.  umm...obviously
> > >  stuff like belts and tensioner.  radiator hoses (at least the two
main
> > >  ones)  suspension bushings/bearings like the strut and control arms.
> > >  (again, no better time)  might as well replace the rear ones while
> >youre
> > >  at it...and hell, why not the wheelbearings too.  fronts are 20 bucks
a
> > >  pop and rears are ~10 a side.  brakes?  not a bad idea.  what do you
> > >  have planned for the head?   at the very least, get it checked for
> > >  warpage.  shave off a little if you want.  (not too much though...)
> > >  getting it ported wouldnt be a bad idead either.  if you have the
> >money.
> > >   but remember, there *are* plenty of people that know how to port a
16v
> > >  head...no need to spend 1000+ on it...
> > >
> > >  i forget if i did anything i didnt mention...
> > >
> > >  oh...when youre bored, you can clean things up and make them look
nice.
> > >  my old car's manifold was in pretty sad shape, so one night i painted
> >it
> > >  black (and i painted the valve cover aluminum) and it looks (or
looked,
> > >  as it were) good as new, with a little twist.  clean everything from
> >the
> > >  air flow plate to threottle body to the exhaust manifold with carb
> > >  cleaner/engine degreaser and a wire/nylon brush.  i actually got
little
> > >  attachments that i put on my drill, so i cleaned out my manifolds,
> > >  combustion chambers, and ports real good.
> > >
> > >  ben randolph
> > >  92 16v gti
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> ------------------------------
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> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 14:24:02 -0500
> From: Ben Randolph <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Re: Fuel Delivery
>
> > From: [email protected]
> >
> > In a message dated 2/10/00 10:12:44 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> > [email protected] writes:
> >
> > << I think
> >  the original point was that you don't have to ditch the Bosch system
> >  entirely and go to custom f.i./engine management: The stock fuel
> >  pump, injectors. . . are up to the task. >>
> >
> > Ah, in that case, you're absolutely correct.
> >
> > Alex.
>
> thanks lee.  thats what i meant.  my apologies for not being clear on
> that.  when i said "bare bones stock" what i meant was not switching to
> other compatible CIS parts or switching to a different engine management
> system.  it certainly wont be optimal, thats for sure, but it does a
> good enough job, and its essentially free.
>
> ben randolph
> 92 16v gti
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> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 14:18:56 -0500
> From: "Williams, Chris (RSCH)" <[email protected]>
> Subject: RE: Various engine building questions...
>
> As someone who is about to drop a nice pile of cash on a rebuilt block,
> head, cams, etc., I thought it was my responsibility to respond.
>
> I think you underestimate how expensive it is to mod other cars.  Good E30
> M3s are still going for twice, the better ones for three times + the price
I
> paid for my GLI two years ago.  While suspension components are roughly
> comparable in price, parts for the motor are through the roof!
>
> What Audi combines the light weight and easy power of an A2 16v?
>
> HTH,
>
> Chris Williams
> [email protected]
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [SMTP:[email protected]]
> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 1:47 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Various engine building questions...
>
> Ben, I think that if I had that kind of expendable income, I would
> be driving
> an Audi or an E30 M3.  As would most of the rest of us.
>
> -Dave
> '91 GTX 16V
>
>
> In a message dated 2/10/00 9:50:25 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> [email protected]
> writes:
>
> > > From: "vw racer" <[email protected]>
> >  >
> >  > spend $100
> >  > at a machine shop and have them balance all bottom-end parts.
> It's worth
> > it
> >  > for the peice of mind.
> >
> >  more than that too...the engine will be smoother, and if things
> are
> >  lightened a bit, youll see a little bump in power too.
> >
> >  > I also recommend using ARP rod-bolts, ARP main bolts
> >  > arent really worth it on a VW, since they rarely fail.
> >
> >  agreed on the main bolts.  unless you are a racer and are
> constantly
> >  pulling the head off the engine, stock stretch bolts are the way
> to go.
> >  besides the fact that they are WAY cheaper and dont have to be
> >  retightened, they will hold the head down with a more consistent
> tension
> >  at each bolt.  (which, if you are covering all bases, makes it
> less
> >  likely to bolw the gasket down the road)
> >
> >  as for the swap...change the motormounts.  there is *no* easier
> time.
> >  the front subframe bushings too...theyre like 1.50 a piece, and
> can make
> >  a huge difference.  a few other suggestions:  change the clutch
> too.  a
> >  year is a year, and theyre only $110 for the whole clutch kit.
> get the
> >  flywheel lightened and resurfaced.  flip and rebuild your CV's.
> get
> >  your injectors cleaned/flowed.  (then replace, if necessary)  and
> >  replace all the injector seals and lower seats too.
> umm...obviously
> >  stuff like belts and tensioner.  radiator hoses (at least the two
> main
> >  ones)  suspension bushings/bearings like the strut and control
> arms.
> >  (again, no better time)  might as well replace the rear ones
> while youre
> >  at it...and hell, why not the wheelbearings too.  fronts are 20
> bucks a
> >  pop and rears are ~10 a side.  brakes?  not a bad idea.  what do
> you
> >  have planned for the head?   at the very least, get it checked
> for
> >  warpage.  shave off a little if you want.  (not too much
> though...)
> >  getting it ported wouldnt be a bad idead either.  if you have the
> money.
> >   but remember, there *are* plenty of people that know how to port
> a 16v
> >  head...no need to spend 1000+ on it...
> >
> >  i forget if i did anything i didnt mention...
> >
> >  oh...when youre bored, you can clean things up and make them look
> nice.
> >  my old car's manifold was in pretty sad shape, so one night i
> painted it
> >  black (and i painted the valve cover aluminum) and it looks (or
> looked,
> >  as it were) good as new, with a little twist.  clean everything
> from the
> >  air flow plate to threottle body to the exhaust manifold with
> carb
> >  cleaner/engine degreaser and a wire/nylon brush.  i actually got
> little
> >  attachments that i put on my drill, so i cleaned out my
> manifolds,
> >  combustion chambers, and ports real good.
> >
> >  ben randolph
> >  92 16v gti
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 13:46:03 -0600
> From: brd <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: 10.1" Brake Conversion
>
> Okay, dumb question: how do you know if you have them?  Is 10.1" the
> diameter of the rotors, or what?
>
> Laters,
> Brian
> 89 GLi Wolfsburg
>
> On Thu, Feb 10, 2000 at 01:50:36PM -0500, [email protected] wrote:
> > You may want to be sure that you don't have them already.  Some of the
late
> > '89 GLI(GTX)s had the 10.1" front brakes.
> >
> > -Dave
> > '91 GTX 16V
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 2/10/00 12:21:22 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> > [email protected] writes:
> >
> > > What is necessary to upgrade from 9.4" disks to 10.1"?
> > >
> > >  TIA,
> > >  Mark Reda.
> > >  89 Jetta GTX 16V
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 14:57:41 -0500
> From: Ben Randolph <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Re: Various engine building questions...
>
> > From: [email protected]
> >
> > Ben, I think that if I had that kind of expendable income, I would be
driving
> > an Audi or an E30 M3.  As would most of the rest of us.
>
> yikes...i was just trying to offer some suggestions, dude.  i dont know
> what the guy's budget is, but i figured its better to have more swap
> ideas than not.  but having those expenses be comparable to an M3?
> pffft.  hardly.  if you see it that way your ride should have two wheels
> and pedals.  save for the headwork, you can do EVERYTHING i suggested
> for well under $1000, and omitting a few things here or there would
> probably put you close to $500.
>
> as this is heading in the direction of another useless thread, ill try
> to get back on track and give a few more suggestions.  remember kids,
> these are just SUGGESTIONS.  i have done a few engine swaps, and found
> some of these things out the hard way.  others i just decided to do
> because i wasnt working on the actual swap, but i felt like doing
> something with my car...later to realize i was glad i did what ever i
> did when i did.
>
> without further fanfare:
>
> use the time to clean all of the engine's electronic connections.
> you're more likely to find the time to do it when the engine bay is
> empty.  you can also inspect and then clean up any wires with flex loom
> and hell, install relays if you dont have em.  and if you go to a car
> stereo shop, for $20-30 you can score all the materials to build an
> overkill wiring setup like the kind ND rips you off for 100+.  at the
> very least, hose out the radiator and the condensor, and flush the
> radiator if youre feeling sassy.  give your car all the standard tune up
> parts, unless its had them in the VERY near future.  its always a good
> feeling to have your car start "fresh" once you compelte a big project
> like this.  oh...play the shifter bushing game.  replace em all and be
> happy you did.  its one of those things that even if you did it last
> year, you might as well do it again.  remeber to grease em up a little
> bit, and epoxy that golf ball!  ummm....i dunno.  i did a lot of little
> cleaning things here and there, and i was really happy with the results.
>  i would take in my fuel distributor or something like that as i was
> watching teevee, and do it up all nice.  if you have the time, its well
> worth it.
>
> ben randolph
> 92 16v gti
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 15:14:01 -0500
> From: Ben Randolph <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: 10.1" Brake Conversion
>
> > From: Mark Reda <[email protected]>
> >
> > What is necessary to upgrade from 9.4" disks to 10.1"?
>
> basically everything thats also needed to upgrade to 11" brakes...for
> about the same amount of money.  it really isnt a worthwhile conversion.
>  for monetary AND preformance reasons.  if wheel size is an issue, then
> my suggestion would be to keep the smaller brakes and try different
> pads/rotors.  if you really need the fade resistance, the 11" are the
> way to go, as the 10" brakes probably wont be enough anyway.  and if you
> dont have 15" wheels, then...what better excuse to go buy a nice new set
> of revo's?  :-)
>
> ben randolph
> 92 16v gti
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 15:18:29 EST
> From: [email protected]
> Subject: worn piston rings
>
> > No, that would be an indication of worn valve guides or valve stem
seals.
> >  Bad ring scan blow blue (oil) smoke upon acceleration, especially when
the
> >  engine is cold.
>
> ok I havent gotten out of my car to see when it is burning, but what about
> burning oil at a stoplight?
>
> mark diederich
> '86 GLi
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>
> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 16:34:41 EST
> From: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Various engine building questions...
>
> In a message dated 2/10/00 11:02:13 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> [email protected] writes:
>
> << I really need to win the Lotto!! Then I'd need a small shack of a house
> and
>  a huge Dealership sized garage, and it would be pristine.
>
>  Fred 92 GLI 16V 2035 >>
>
> That is funny as hell. I thought I was the only one who would prefer a
> carpeted, fully stocked (including lift, machine tools, piped-in air,
etc.)
> pristine 5 car garage to some stinkin' house any day. Put in a cot, fridge
> and giant-screen tv and you don't need a house:) Glad to see there are
others
> as whacked as me.
> Philip
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 16:51:52 -0500
> From: Patrick Austin <[email protected]>
> Subject: RE: Various engine building questions...
>
> >What Audi combines the light weight and easy power of an A2 16v?
> >
>
> Ur-Quattro!  There is the small matter of rust, however.  Kind of ironic,
> on a car that's most amazing talent is it's bad-weather handling.  Europe
> also saw some pretty cool coupes that never made it over here.
>
> I think it'd be cool to score a 10v Turbo 5 cyl from an Audi 200, and pop
> that into a 4000 quattro body with some turbo mods.  Is the 4000 engine
> mounted transversely or longitudinally?  Could it be done?  It'd be so
neat
> to have a 250+ hp 4000 quattro.  A miniature group B rally car, almost.  A
> virtual mini-B, if you will.
> **************
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 13:51:53 PST
> From: "vw racer" <[email protected]>
> Subject: RE: (Kent 258 Cams/Dyno) Fuel Pressure/Delivery
>
> I haven't dynoed it yet. Someone speculated 14's- but I dont drag anyway.
As
> for 0-60, I hope for 6's atleast, as stock is, what, 7.9 or less? I
suspect,
> optimistically, that hp is atleast 190-195 at the crank. With:
> 2035cc,balanced,RPI port/polished head,shrick 256's,head may be decked a
> little,garrett custom chip,K&N,drilled box,JE Forged pistons,SuperSprint
> dual-downpipe(noncat) and TT exhaust. I may be optimistic about but oh
well.
> Holland, feel free to bring me down on this. I want to add 268's, 50mm
> intake and a Hannaford stage 3 head (claims 35hp!!). I also hace a 3.89
r&p
> and lightened flywheel.
>
> Fred
>
>
> >From: "Forkenbrock, Garrick <NHTSA>" <[email protected]>
> >To: [email protected] (IPM Return requested) (Receipt notification
> >requested)
> >Subject: RE: (Kent 258 Cams/Dyno) Fuel Pressure/Delivery
> >Date: 10 Feb 2000 14:39:08 -0500
> >
> >That's interesting.  I recently put an ABA shortblock
> >(stock, with only 7k miles) beneath my much ported
> >8V GLI head.  The motor starts pulling pretty well by
> >about 3k but falls off at a little over 6k.  This is with
> >almost 11.0:1 compression, a Schrick 272 advanced
> >4 degrees, and a TT fuel enrichment module.  Have
> >you dyno'ed (or G-tech'ed) your beast yet?  I expect
> >mine will do 0-60 in about 7.5 sec., and the quarter in
> >the mid 15s.
> >
> >Garrick Forkenbrock
> >'86 GLI 2L
> >SCCA SM 72
> >
> > >>> [email protected] 02/10/00 01:59PM >>>
> >I'd say around 3500?? It's so torquey, that it's hard to say where the
> >engine actually comes up on the cams. The problem is that it seems to
lose
> >it around 6500 or so.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Forkenbrock, Garrick <NHTSA>"
<[email protected]>
> > >To: [email protected] (IPM Return requested) (Receipt
notification
> > >requested)
> > >Subject: RE: (Kent 258 Cams/Dyno) Fuel Pressure/Delivery
> > >Date: 10 Feb 2000 11:48:41 -0500
> > >
> > >Out of curiousity, where does you motor begin to
> > >pull from?  I mean noticably strong, but not max,
> > >acceleration?
> > >
> > >TIA
> > >Garrick Forkenbrock
> > >'86 GLI 2L
> > >SCCA SM 72
> > >
> > > >>> [email protected] 02/10/00 11:27AM >>>
> > >Chris,
> > >I like them, but I'm itching for something bigger. I've got plenty of
> > >low-end with the 2035, so I want to get a bigger cam.
> > >
> > >Fred
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Williams, Chris (RSCH)" <[email protected]>
> > > >To: "'vw racer'" <[email protected]>
> > > >Subject: RE: (Kent 258 Cams/Dyno) Fuel Pressure/Delivery
> > > >Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 10:26:57 -0500
> > > >
> > > >Fred:
> > > >
> > > >How do you like your Schricks?  I ask because I have a pair sitting
in
> >my
> > > >basement.  Within the month, I'll be putting them into a new 2.0L
that
> > >I'm
> > > >about to assemble: b&b block, p&p head, and the Schricks.
> >
> > >
> > > >I cannot wait.
> > > >
> > > >Chris Williams
> > > >[email protected]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: vw racer [SMTP:[email protected]]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 10:40 PM
> > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > Subject: Re: (Kent 258 Cams/Dyno) Fuel Pressure/Delivery
> > > >
> > > > Jim,
> > > > You dont need to. It will adjust itself. Motronic is very good up to
> > > >atleast
> > > > 276's, maybe even 288's(or were they 284?).
> > > > If you must, get a Haltec or Motec engine management system and
> > > >either
> > > > individual throttle-bodies or carbs with big air-horns.
> > > > I'd love to see a car like that on this side of the pond.
> > > > Let me know about the cams if you get them.  I have Shrick 256's,
> > > >but
> > > > thought about the Kents alot. I only went with the Shricks because i
> > > >got
> > > > them for  550 and you of course dont need cores for them.
> > > >
> > > > Fred 92 GLI 16V 2035
> > >
> >  >
> > > >
> > > > >From: jimvish <[email protected]>
> > > > >To: [email protected]
> > > > >Subject: Re: (Kent 258 Cams/Dyno) Fuel Pressure/Delivery
> > > > >Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 19:20:31 -0500
> > > > >
> > > > >22 hp?! Good Lord! Do you think they'd do better in a (my) car with
> > > >a 2.0L
> > > > >16V, ported&polished head, Garrett chip (which one should I get?)
> > > >dowpipe,
> > > > >exhaust, intake, etc?
> > > > >
> > > > >I think that was in VW Power one of those months too, I remember
> > > >reading
> > > > >it.
> > > > >I don't have the issue here (at school), so thanks for the
> > > >refresher!
> > > > >
> > > > >On a related issue, how am I going to get more gas and air to the
> > > >motor,
> > > > >since the cams will definitely eat up more gas? I've never seen
> > > >anything in
> > > > >my researching that allows you to adjust fuel pressure and the like
> > > >on a
> > > > >Motronic system.
> >
> > > >
> > > > >Jim Weinheimer
> > > > >[email protected]
> > > > >85 GTI
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >What do you know, I have that issue.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Here are some quotes from the artilce:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >"good low-end performance, and a whopping 22-hp gain at 6500 rpm
> > > >where
> > > > > >the stock cams have started falling off."
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Says thay idle smoothly also...
> > > > > >test vehicle was a daily driver with 130k miles on engine.
> > > > > >On a 2.0 Liter 16v engine, with a 1.8 head. TT sport cat,
> > > >exhaust, and
> > > > > >fuel enrichment module
> > > > > >
> > > > > >"Keeping in mind that day-to-day driving rarely touches a tach's
> > > >red
> > > > > >zone, how do the Kent cams perform in the real world? Damn good,
> > > >I think.
> > > > > >How's the idle? I really couldn't discern any difference-it's as
> > > >smooth
> > > > > >as ever."
> > > > > >
> > > > > >"Gaining horsepower at high rmp costs torque at the low end.
> > >
> >  >Still,
> > > > > >notice (dyno chart in mag) the Kent 258's have way more torque
> > > >than stock
> > > > > >from about 2500 rpm on up."
> > > > > >
> > > > > >If you want to know anymore about the article, lemme know. Adios!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >          Markos
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >On Wed, 09 Feb 2000 17:41:44 -0500 jimvish <[email protected]>
> > > >writes:
> > > > > >>Doh! I don't have that one. Anyone out there with that issue?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>TIA
> > > > > >>Jim Weinheimer
> > > > > >>[email protected]
> > > > > >>85 GTI
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>>There was a big article, with dyno, in ,I think, May 98 E.C.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>Fred
> > > > > >>
> >
> > > > >>
> > > > > >>>>Does anyone have or know where I can find dyno results of a
> > > >2.0L 16V
> > > > > >>with
> > > > > >>>>Kent 258 cams?
> > > > > >>
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>
> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 16:54:38 -0500
> From: jimvish <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Various engine building questions...
>
> House? What's a house? That's what I park my cars in, right? ; )
>
> Jim
>
>
> >That is funny as hell. I thought I was the only one who would prefer a
> >carpeted, fully stocked (including lift, machine tools, piped-in air,
etc.)
> >pristine 5 car garage to some stinkin' house any day. Put in a cot,
fridge
> >and giant-screen tv and you don't need a house:) Glad to see there are
others
> >as whacked as me.
> >Philip
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