Well it looks as tho cutting my front springs is not a viable option then.
The general concensus is that it will increase my spring stiffness in the
front which is something I definately do not want.
As far as the process of cutting a spring (mute point now) I doubt that
grinding the spring could introduce more heat than a torch. Even the torch
would have some trouble getting the steel to a temperature that would allow
tempering, but I wouldn't want to take any chances. If I were to do it I
would use a grinder.
So my next subject would be deciding what lowering springs will lower the
car a little more in the front to make up for the VR6 strut bearings (also I
like the way it looks) and not too stiff because my Bilstein HD's are
already stiff enough for me.
My first choice of springs would be anything by H&R as they lower the front
more and it seems they make the best product, but their rates scare me, are
these stiff? What lowering springs out there are known to be somewhat soft
compared to others? Are the Neuspeed Sports softer than the H&R Lowering
Springs? Also, I don't want to go too low as the HD's are not designed for
that.
MaTT - Seattle, WA
91 Jetta GLi 16v -black
88 Jetta 2dr -blue
----Original Message Follows----
From: "Marshall Grice IV" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected]
CC: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Taboo] Cutting springs impressions
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 10:11:50 -0700
My main reason for not purchasing lowering springs is that I
do not want the car to ride ANY stiffer, IMHO it is way too stiff as it is.
Well I hate to burst your bubble but if you cut the springs your spring rate
will increase.
Marshall
----Original Message Follows----
From: "Jassem" <[email protected]>
To: "Matt Nelson" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Taboo] Cutting springs impressions
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 09:02:09 +0200
I cut one coil using a professional grinder. I got 2cm of lowering, which is
not really what I was after. I also got a noticable increase in
stiffness,which I'm sure you won't like if you think the springs are already
stiff. I didn't flatten the springs for lack of time but I should have done
it using a torch. If you are looking to lower the car without increased
stifness, go with lowering springs made specifically for your application,
i.e. same spring rate, different height. Don't cut your springs.
----Original Message Follows----
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected], [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Taboo] Cutting springs impressions
Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 23:45:45 EDT
To get that "flat" back what you can do is take the same torch you used to
cut the spring (you are using a torch right) and heat a section about a
quarter of a coil form the end until it is cherry red. then quickly flip the
spring over and press the spring down to create the flat again. Very simple
and effective. Probably the same way Eibach and OEM spring manufacturers
create the flat. Oh in case your wondering the you use a torch instead of a
grinder to cut the spring because the torch somehow doesn't put as much heat
into the spring. Probably because it is quicker that and grinder. Grinders
are slow cutting steel and put quite a bit of heat and will ruin the heat
treating of the spring the torch will just anneal the spring which is what
you want.
Erich
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt Nelson" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 5:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Taboo] Cutting springs impressions
I would also like to know more about this subject. Although I seem to
remember the springs having a "flattened" section at the top and the bottom
to line up flat on the spring perches, is my memory correct? If so, how
would you recreate this after you cut the spring, welding or heating would
ruin it so I have no idea. I hope I'm wrong because I'd like to cut a coil
out of my fronts, it would be very easy. I have stock springs with Bilstein
HD's and VR6 strut bearings. The car rides about about 3/4" too high in the
front I would say. I would like it to be slightly lower than stock in the
front instead. My main reason for not purchasing lowering springs is that I
do not want the car to ride ANY stiffer, IMHO with the Bilsteins it is way
too stiff as it is.
MaTT - Seattle, WA
91 Jetta GLi 16v -black
88 Jetta 2dr -blue
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