OMG!

Chad, I just had one of those "Kick myself in the rear" moments of realization. 
I've replaced those adapter valves twice thinking the first ones were 
defective. You are genius!

I--on the other hand---am not so brilliant.  

Thanks! going to remove the old valve and pull another vacuum to see what 
happens. 

-Les
On Aug 19, 2012, at 5:31 AM, Chad Rebuck wrote:

> Did you remove the old valve from the r12 low pressure connector
> before installing the r134 adapter?  Also, my adapter wasn't opening
> enough so we had to add a metal spacer to the pin on the hose side
> adapter so that it pressed the pin a tiny bit further.
> 
> On Aug 19, 2012, at 12:18 AM, Les Noriel <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Doing this very same thing on my Corrado. I decided to convert to R134. So 
>> far I've replaced those items which are notorious for failure-- the 
>> Receiver/Dryer, the High Pressure switch, all of the O-rings, and the 
>> Expansion Valve. Compared to my Golf MK2, the Corrado engine bay is very 
>> tight. I have to literally disassemble so many other systems just to gain 
>> access to the fittings and hoses. I've been able to pull a vacuum for over 
>> an hour and it does not leak down. However, I've been unable to add oil or 
>> refrigerant. It appears too easy to pull a full vacuum and I suspect I'm 
>> only evacuating a portion of the entire system. There may be a blockage 
>> somewhere in the system.
>> 
>> I have another compressor so I'm going to replace it. Since I have to remove 
>> everything up front to gain access to it, I might as well replace the 
>> evaporator as well.
>> 
>> It's going to be a hot summer!
>> 
>> -Les
>> 
>> On Aug 18, 2012, at 9:02 PM, Chad Rebuck wrote:
>> 
>>> Today I replaced the expansion valve and receiver/drier.  The ac expansion
>>> block was the only area showing significant signs of the dye, so I hope the
>>> r12 stays in the system.  I did recover the remaining r12, which was really
>>> only enough to slightly cool the car at night.  Using the vacuum pump we
>>> pulled a vacuum of 30 for an hour then filled up the system.
>>> 
>>> Next tasks for my car:
>>> 
>>> - replace brake master cylinder
>>> - install track pads and new front rotors
>>> - headliner replacement
>>> - fix power locks - none are working
>>> 
>>> Larry, whats on your list?  :)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 12:04 AM, Les Noriel <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I too am doing this on my Corrado. I am replacing the expansion valve and
>>>> all of the green O=rings as well as the reciever dryer. All of these
>>>> obtainable and inexpensive from partsgeek.  I decided to also replace the
>>>> high pressure switch. All of these arrived yesterday along with my vacuum
>>>> pump
>>>> 
>>>> Les
>>>> On Jun 16, 2012 7:44 PM, "Galen Bergthold" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> That should be the AC expansion valve block. The 4 AC o-rings on this are
>>>>> replaceable. Might also consider a new Receiver/Drier if refilling the AC
>>>>> system.
>>>>> GB
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 22:04:14 -0400
>>>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>>>> To: [email protected]; [email protected]
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [a2-16v-list] Rebuilt ac compressor
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I injected some dye and oil a couple weeks ago.  The compressor has a
>>>>> very
>>>>>> slight amount of dye coming from a spot toward the pulley, but it
>>>> doesn't
>>>>>> appear to be leaking where I suspected.  However, the system does have
>>>> a
>>>>>> pretty good leak coming from the connection block near the firewall
>>>>>> passenger side.  3 of the 4 connections had strong signs of dye.  Are
>>>>> those
>>>>>> 4 connections just sealed with o-rings?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thursday, May 24, 2012, Chad Rebuck wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks for the discussion guys.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I know the compressor functions perfectly I just suspect it is
>>>> leaking
>>>>>>> around the shaft.  I'll inject some dye along with the r12 freon this
>>>>>>> weekend and see if I can confirm the leaks.  My dad purchased a r12
>>>>> tank a
>>>>>>> long time ago and my 90 gli is the only car still on r12.  We do
>>>> have a
>>>>>>> vacuum pump too since we do work on ac systems now and then.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I was really not looking forward to removing everything needed to
>>>> reach
>>>>>>> the evaporator and expansion valve connections to replace o-rings :(
>>>>> maybe
>>>>>>> it is easier than I'm thinking.  I can't remember if I've ever had
>>>> the
>>>>>>> heater/ac coil box out of this car before.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Matthew Yip <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Compressors rarely fail - think of them like a coil, either they work
>>>>> or
>>>>>>> they don't.  Some of the newer compressor have dainty electrical
>>>>> connectors
>>>>>>> that render them useless (which is both expensive and frustrating)
>>>> but
>>>>>>> that's another matter.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> One of my buddies purchased a Harbor Freight vacuum pump to perform
>>>> a/c
>>>>>>> work.  I haven't used it yet but from what I'm told, it really
>>>> sucks...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>>> From: Charlie Russo <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> To: Volkswagen a2 16v discussion list <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 8:07 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [a2-16v-list] Rebuilt ac compressor
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I agree with others here. Unless you have CONCRETE, ABSOLUTE, proof
>>>>> that
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> compressor is the source of your problem, checking the ENTIRE system
>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> leaks is the way to proceed.
>>>>>>>> Also agree with Matthew that should a compressor purchase be
>>>> necessary
>>>>>>> stay
>>>>>>>> away from auction sites & craigslist for this part unless you like
>>>>>>> gambling
>>>>>>>> that the used/rebuilt part will actually work.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The A/C system in my 1985 Golf Daily Driver leaks some. (original
>>>>>>> compressor
>>>>>>>> BTW). When it gets to the point where it does not cool as well I
>>>> just
>>>>> add
>>>>>>>> some freon once a year or so. Just not enough time to trouble shoot
>>>>> and
>>>>>>> find
>>>>>>>> the source of the leak.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Matthew Yip
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 10:54 PM
>>>>>>>> To: Volkswagen a2 16v discussion list
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [a2-16v-list] Rebuilt ac compressor
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I wouldn't buy a rebuilt compressor from Fleabay - too many risks
>>>> that
>>>>>>>> you'll end up with a lump of aluminum.  That said, buying from
>>>>> Rockauto or
>>>>>>>> similar would be a safer bet if you want to buy on-line.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> As for your leak - most likely it's a dry o-ring.  You could
>>>> probably
>>>>> just
>>>>>>>> pull the lines and replace all the o-rings.  Then evacuate the
>>>> system
>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> refill it with a sealer and an oil charge.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>>>> From: Jack Simon <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> To: Volkswagen a2 16v discussion list <[email protected]
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 7:17 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [a2-16v-list] Rebuilt ac compressor
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Don't just look at the compressor, have it professionally leak
>>>>> checked
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> a dye injected into the system, there are a ton of places it could
>>>> be
>>>>>>>>> leaking, all of which are expensive to repair.  Mine still leaks
>>>> but
>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>>> in south central PA, it isn't that critical to me, being near St.
>>>>> Pete
>>>>>>>>> makes a helluva difference!!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 23 May 2012, at 18:34, Chad wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I may have a leaking compressor on my 90 16v.  What experiece do
>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> guys have with rebuilt compressors?  Price range is rather wide
>>>> from
>>>>>>>>> what I saw on eBay.  I'm also considering having the hoses rebuilt
>>>>>>>>> depending on cost.  An ac charge lasts only 4 months at this point
>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> the compressor is attracting lots of oil/dirt.  I'll do some leak
>>>>>>>>> detection too to be sure.
>>>>>>>>> 
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