opened another thread re this subject..sorry for the hijack...keep on
discussing staroffice and the maltese government's policy pls


Move along nothing to see here!

M

On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 10:18 PM, Jean Azzopardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Arch Linux ftw! Well, I wouldn't give it to noobs, but as you're not a
> noob, I'd definitely suggest it to you. It's usable (well, otherwise I
> wouldn't be typing this), and there are no such things as feature
> freeze, it's a rolling release. Some things haven't updated yet, like
> KDE 4, but it's a piece of cake to compile it as a package.
> Customisable? You just have to edit 1 file. Wiki's excellent, community
> is excellent. Packages are quite fine too. There isn't a synaptic like
> utility though..but controlling it from the command line shouldn't be a
> problem. Oh,and suspend and hibernate work.. They never did in Ubuntu.
> Plus, the good things of Ubuntu, like the patches they add to cairo for
> better font rendering, are also easily obtainable.
>
> Sorry for the offtopicness, though.
>
> On Wed, 2008-05-28 at 22:04 +0200, Anton Xuereb wrote:
> > totally offtopic of me but anyways: that's fucken true jean...I'm
> > getting pissed off at ubuntu for this very reason...they insist on not
> > upgrading anything to the latest versions..and by the time there is
> > feature freeze half the programs are waiting to be updated still and
> > we end up with old versions of stuff..prime example of this are games
> > which are totally pointless sionce you wont be able to connect to any
> > multiplayer server as you are out of sync with versions and thus
> > incompatible :/ Makes my blood boil :/ GRRRR ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
> >
> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAa
> >
> >
> > someone can suggest a usable distro that has proper backports, easily
> > customisable with proper package management (ala debian ie ? )
> >
> > /sigh
> >
> >
> > M
> >
> > On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 9:57 PM, Jean Azzopardi
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >         The Eclipse included in Ubuntu is 2 versions out of date,
> >         there's a
> >         launchpad bug filed upon it. Personally, I don't want to touch
> >         Ubuntu
> >         with a 6 foot pole right now :( Compared to Arch Linux, it's
> >         been crap
> >         all the way along.
> >
> >         However, for most people, I think that vanilla Ubuntu is quite
> >         good. I
> >         think most ICT students should be able to install packages
> >         from
> >         synaptic, it ain't rocket science, and there are always people
> >         around to
> >         help. Not to mention google.
> >
> >         Anyway, here are a few packages you might want to consider
> >         removing :
> >
> >         Ekiga, Gnome Games
> >
> >         And add :
> >         wine - save the trouble of installing it
> >         hotbabe - for cpu monitoring, very important.
> >         restricted codecs :D
> >         Development stuff - if necessary
> >         emacs
> >         vim-full
> >         htop
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >         On Wed, 2008-05-28 at 14:48 +0200, Anton Xuereb wrote:
> >         > yep...I was thinking of having some developement oriented
> >         stuff
> >         > pre-installed such as eclipse, monodevelop, perl, etc mostly
> >         aimed at
> >         > uni it students...
> >         >
> >         > M
> >         >
> >         > On 5/28/08, Jean Azzopardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >         >         What were you planning to customise though? I
> >         thought Ubuntu
> >         >         already had
> >         >         most stuff people need..and if you add new stuff,
> >         you'll need
> >         >         DVDs, just
> >         >         to warn you.
> >         >
> >         >         On Wed, 2008-05-28 at 14:44 +0200, Anton Xuereb
> >         wrote:
> >         >         > I'v actually heard a bit of both tbfh..
> >         >         >
> >         >         > Ye i was thinking of spinning a custom ubuntu,
> >         making a 100
> >         >         copies or
> >         >         > so and off we go..
> >         >         >
> >         >         > M
> >         >         >
> >         >         >
> >         >         > On 5/28/08, Keith Vassallo
> >         <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >         >         >
> >         >         >         > And it's probably useless to rely on the
> >         >         Government to do
> >         >         >         anything right
> >         >         >         > when it comes to Linux. (I'm not talking
> >         >         politically here,
> >         >         >         but right now
> >         >         >         > it seems to me that they're rolling in
> >         bed with
> >         >         MS).
> >         >         >         >
> >         >         >
> >         >         >         Don't be too sure about that... I've heard
> >         >         differently
> >         >         >
> >         >         >         Keith
> >         >         >
> >         >         >         >
> >         >         >         > On Wed, 2008-05-28 at 11:14 +0200, Anton
> >         Xuereb
> >         >         wrote:
> >         >         >         >
> >         >         >         >> last exam next sunday, then I have a
> >         week or 2
> >         >         before i
> >         >         >         start my ccna
> >         >         >         >> so I will be able to dedicate some time
> >         to the
> >         >         matter of
> >         >         >         spinning our
> >         >         >         >> own
> >         >         >         >>
> >         >         >         >> On 5/28/08, Keith Vassallo
> >         >         <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >         >         >         >>         I doubt the government's
> >         metaphorical
> >         >         skills :P
> >         >         >         >>
> >         >         >         >>         Anyway, this prompts me on the
> >         importance
> >         >         of having
> >         >         >         our own
> >         >         >         >>         distributions...
> >         >         >         >>
> >         >         >         >>         Behind me are the two famous
> >         replicators
> >         >         we're
> >         >         >         always talking
> >         >         >         >>         about...
> >         >         >         >>
> >         >         >         >>         Keith
> >         >         >         >>
> >         >         >         >>         Anton Xuereb wrote:
> >         >         >         >>         > It's all about paving the
> >         road of the
> >         >         internet
> >         >         >         superhighway
> >         >         >         >>         O_o
> >         >         >         >>         >
> >         >         >         >>         > M
> >         >         >         >>         >
> >         >         >         >>         >
> >         >         >         >>         > On 5/28/08, *Keith Vassallo*
> >         >         >         <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >         >         >         >>         >
> >         <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
> >         >         >         >>         >
> >         >         >         >>         >     Oh that's just great.
> >         >         >         >>         >
> >         >         >         >>         >     And by the way...
> >         Ministry of
> >         >         Infrastructure,
> >         >         >         Transport
> >         >         >         >>         and
> >         >         >         >>         >     Communications....
> >         >         >         >>         >
> >         >         >         >>         >     Exactly where the hell is
> >         IT in
> >         >         that? Doesn't
> >         >         >         it deserve
> >         >         >         >>         it's own
> >         >         >         >>         >     ministry?
> >         >         >         >>         >
> >         >         >         >>         >     K.
> >         >         >         >>         >
> >         >         >         >>         >     Anton Xuereb wrote:
> >         >         >         >>         >     > I don't want to be the
> >         eternal
> >         >         pessimist
> >         >         >         but the one
> >         >         >         >>         time the
> >         >         >         >>         >     > government decides to
> >         do
> >         >         something
> >         >         >         non-microsoft there
> >         >         >         >>         is a form of
> >         >         >         >>         >     > cock-up...Apparently
> >         some of the
> >         >         cds
> >         >         >         distributed with
> >         >         >         >>         staroffice
> >         >         >         >>         >     didnt
> >         >         >         >>         >     > contain the completed
> >         package or
> >         >         some files
> >         >         >         were
> >         >         >         >>         corrupted. To this
> >         >         >         >>         >     > end a website was setup
> >         >         >         >>
> >         http://staroffice.2iltd.com/ ...Can't
> >         >         help
> >         >         >         >>         >     > thinking tho that ppl
> >         will blame
> >         >         staroffice
> >         >         >         for not
> >         >         >         >>         working :/
> >         >         >         >>         >     >
> >         >         >         >>         >     >
> >         >         >         >>         >     > M
> >         >         >         >>         >     >
> >         >         >         >>         >
> >         >         >         >>
> >         >         >
> >         >
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