Someone in the meeting also claimed that Swig and Twig were compatible, and
that does appear to be generally true, but I think there are some
deviations.

- Trevor


On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Juliusz Gonera <jgon...@wikimedia.org>
wrote:

> Someone in one of our meetings mentioned that Twig is a PHP
> implementation of Mustache. This doesn't seem to be the case though.
> We need a templating solution that works both on the server and the
> client.
>
> On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 5:21 PM, Trevor Parscal <tpars...@wikimedia.org>
> wrote:
> > Thanks for summarizing the meeting Jon.
> >
> > So, let's get Twig/Swig into core then, eh? :)
> >
> > - Trevor
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Jon Robson <jrob...@wikimedia.org>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Shahyar, Juliusz, Trevor, Kaldari, Roan and I sat down yesterday and
> >> talked about the future of skins. Hopefully this mail summarises what
> >> we talked about and what we agreed on. Feel free to add anything, or
> >> ask any questions in the likely event that I've misinterpreted
> >> something we talked about or this is unclear :)
> >>
> >> Specifically we talked about how we are unhappy with how difficult it
> >> currently is for developers to create a skin. The skin class involves
> >> too many functions and does more than a skin should do e.g. manage
> >> classes on the body, worry about script tags and style tags.
> >>
> >> Trevor is going to create a base set of widgets, for example a list
> >> generator to generate things like a list of links to user tools. The
> >> widgets will be agnostic to how they are rendered - some may use
> >> templates, some may not.
> >>
> >> We identified the new skin system will have two long term goals:
> >> 1) We would like to get to the point where a new skin can be built by
> >> simply copying and pasting a master template and writing a new css
> >> file.
> >> 2) Should be possible for us in future to re-render an entire page via
> >> JavaScript and using the modern history push state re-render any page
> >> via the API. (Whether we'd want to do this is another consideration
> >> but we would like to have an architecture that is powerful enough to
> >> support such a thing)
> >>
> >> As next steps we agreed to do the following:
> >>
> >> 1) Trevor is going to build a watch star widget on client and server.
> >> We identified that the existing watch star code is poorly written and
> >> has resulted in MobileFrontend rewriting it. We decided to target this
> >> as it is a simple enough example that it doesn't need a template. It's
> >> small and contained enough that we hope this will allow us to share
> >> ideas and codify a lot of those. Trevor is hoping to begin working on
> >> this the week of the 2nd September.
> >>
> >> 2) We need a templating system in core. Trevor is going to do some
> >> research on server side templating systems. We hope that the
> >> templating RFC [1] can get resolved however we are getting to a point
> >> that we need one as soon as possible and do not want to be blocked by
> >> the outcome of this RFC, especially given a mustache based templating
> >> language can address all our current requirements.
> >>
> >> [1]
> >>
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/HTML_templating_library
> >>
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