Hi Dan -- did you get a chance to write up your findings? thanks,
-Toby On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 1:46 PM, Tomasz Finc <tf...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > I'll be eager to see you guys write up your findings after the spikes are > over. > > thanks for moving that forward. > > --tomasz > > On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 3:05 AM, Gautam Chandna <gaut...@opera.com> wrote: > > OEMs care about the size of their OS, as this is stored in a restricted > > read-only area (unless a device is rooted). Once the device is running, > > those limitations don't apply as an app has tons of space to update > itself. > > > > Quite like the network installer concept for desktop applications, OEMs > > prefer if the pre-install is a small package that in itself doesn't > > necessarily do much other than download the real app. > > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 12:48 AM, Yuri Astrakhan < > yastrak...@wikimedia.org> > > wrote: > >> > >> Don't preload apps still get over-the-air updates, often the whole app > >> re-download? > >> > >> On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 12:39 AM, Carolynne Schloeder > >> <cschloe...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi, yes app size and yes optimization :-) > >>> > >>> App size does matter > >>> OEM's are sensitive to the size of the app for preload. They were > >>> satisfied with our last version that was under 3MB; we'll find out > what they > >>> will tolerate. And we will likely push appstore promotion as part of > our > >>> deep dive.[1] > >>> > >>> Couple of thoughts on optimization: > >>> Yuri already worked to compress images on mobile web, only deployed on > >>> zero partners so far. Rolling out the image compression could be an > easy > >>> start to reduce the page load. > >>> > >>> In a couple of weeks, we will get into Facebook/Ericsson's network > >>> simulation lab in Menlo Park, where we can experience our UX on low end > >>> devices and slow networks. > >>> > >>> Dan and Maryana, can you help me organize who should go to the lab? > >>> > >>> Thanks -- > >>> > >>> Carolynne > >>> > >>> [1] The Wikipedia Zero team is getting together with product, UX, comms > >>> and GLEE to go deep in one country, to understand the context for > Wikipedia > >>> usage and how we can unlock growth in underserved market segments - > beyond > >>> just making data free. More info in our QR notes. > >>> > >>> > >>> On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Dan Garry <dga...@wikimedia.org> > wrote: > >>>> > >>>> On 1 February 2015 at 14:48, Toby Negrin <tneg...@wikimedia.org> > wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Dan -- can you please limit the scope to sizing the android app? I > >>>>> think that's more relevant to reaching people in the developing > world. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> I think that depends. In a world where we're focussing on preloads, > the > >>>> size of the app is pretty immaterial as the user isn't paying the > cost for > >>>> downloading it. In that world, the best optimisations to make are > probably > >>>> reducing network traffic and improving performance on slower devices, > things > >>>> where there's lot of room for improvement in our code base. Also, our > >>>> Android app is also an order of magnitude smaller than Facebook's > Android > >>>> app, so that's less of an issue for us. Facebook evidently decided to > TACKLE > >>>> ALL THE THINGS with Facebook Lite. > >>>> > >>>>> Also, can you see what percent of our GS traffic uses 2.3? Google has > >>>>> it at about 10% globally but we need to understand our target market > better. > >>>>> You might also want to check in with your new contact at App Annie > to see if > >>>>> they have useful GS data. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Absolutely. > >>>> > >>>> Dan > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Dan Garry > >>>> Associate Product Manager, Mobile Apps > >>>> Wikimedia Foundation > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Carolynne Schloeder > >>> Director Global Mobile Partnerships > >>> Wikimedia Foundation > >>> +14154077071 > >>> skype: cschloeder > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Mobile-l mailing list > >>> Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l > >>> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Mobile-l mailing list > >> Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Gautam Chandna | Director - Technical Partner Management | > gaut...@opera.com > > | +47-4567-1789 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mobile-l mailing list > > Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l > > >
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