fuck that.
fuck "thanking" bands for their influence.
fuck led zepplin
fuck the beatles.
fuck the rolling stones.
fuck bob dylan.
fuck the velvet underground.
that stuff was original and groundbreaking in it's own time and
that's great, but guess what? i wasn't around then and it sounds
boring now.
issac brock writes better lyrics than lou reed.
pavement writes better hooks than the beatles.
doug martsch is a better guitarist than jimi hendrix.
of course the beatles we're unimaginably ground-breaking when
they first appeared; nothing had been done yet... the possibilities
for innovation where unlimited. but look at modest mouse: 40 years
later, look how far they're pushing the miniscule amount of
uncharted territory they have to work with.
the rolling stones have been making the same fucking album over
and over for 30 years, but no one gives a shit about their new stuff.
is it because mick jagger is getting worse? no, it's because the
dismemberment plans and modest mouses of the world are the
ones making progress now, and what worked 20 or 30 years ago
doesn't cut it today. simply put: it's not as good.
"out with the old and in with the new", that's what I say!
On 18 Jul 2000, at 9:09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Girlfriend, are you crazy?! Led Zeppelin is responsible for the
> GOOD things we like now... whenever you hear a bowed
> instrument played in a rock song (Nirvana, Modest Mouse) you can
> thank Jimmy Page. And also thank them for taking inspiration
> from non-Western music in making a lot of their music.. and for
> experimenting with keyboards and theremins in their rock...
>
> A ton of great bands show open influence of Zep.. mainly the
> Flaming Lips and Soundgarden...Beastie Boys.. and others...
>
> Anyways, blaming Zep for cock rock is like blaming Jaws for
> Twister and Volcano or Pyscho for the Hand that Rocks the Cradle.
> One thing might have led to the other, but don't blame the originals
> for what came after!
>
> Also while many of their songs were about sex and booze, their
> lyrics were nothing like the cock-rockers were. If I had to point
> fingers I would point at AC/DC, God Bless 'Em. Songs like Big
> Balls led the way for a whole new breed of suck, like the Crue, and
> Ratt, who I loved btw. I don't know how you could listen to songs
> like Kashmir, or In The Light, Traveling River Side Blues.. and even
> THINK of Cock Rock!!
>
> Now I'm just ranting - Zep might have been the most talented band
> ever - Unlike bands today where one member carries the rest of the
> band for the most part IE Nirvana, Modest Mouse, Pavement (my
> favorite bands) they were a balanced attack. I guess it didn't hurt
> they sold their souls to the Devil.
>
> I can perhaps concede that Zep changed music and less talented
> imitators might have filled the gap that Zep left between themselves
> and the rest of music.. but I can't see anyone saying nothing good
> came from Zeppelin... the same argument could apply to Nirvana..
> it's only because of Nirvana I had to put up with the likes of Bush
> and STP.. but it's also because of Nirvana we got a lot of good
> music.
>
> So hate tha game, but don't hate tha playa's.
>
> p.s. I think I'm too old for brite eyes too.
>
> As for 80's music, it did kind of suck.. and I grew up with it.. sure..
> I loved Michael Jackson and Duran Duran but there are not a lot of
> bands who I see as leaving a permanent mark on music that came
> from the 80's.. maybe the Talking Heads.. but a lot of their stuff
> doesn't hold up that well now even.. I'll always remember it for the
> hip-hop that came out of the mid-late 80's.. RUN DMC, Public
> Enemy, Beastie Boys, Eric B. and Rakim, EPMD, NWA, Grand
> Master Flash, LL, and on and on.. I pretty much got out listening to
> rock for many years because hip hop was so good then and rock
> wasn't, or at least the rock I had access to.
>
>
>
> > i was pretty obviously talking about the correlation between led zeppelin
> > and the corporate rock (ie cockrock) of the 80s...there was nothing good
> > that came out of led zeppelin, that's the point i was trying to prove.
> and
> > it's true, nothing good came out of led zeppelin ;)
> > - amy
> >
> >
>
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