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1. Known propositions for the name/symbol of Mod_Perl
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1.1. Animals (independent symbols)
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1.1.1. Eagle, proposed by Ged Haywood. Copyrighted by O'Reilly, but it looks
like this problem can be solved.
1.1.2. Hedgehog, proposed by Stas Bekman.
1.1.3. Oyster, proposed by Randy Harmon.
1.1.4. Elephant, proposed by Jay J.
1.2. Weird things / mixtures (the idea of a bridge)
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1.2.1. Mythical beast with the head of an eagle and the body of a camel,
proposed by Rod Butcher.
1.2.2. Weird animal with recognizable features of the camel head and the
eagle, and feathers painted like the Apache feather, proposed by Bill
Desjardins.
1.2.3. Eagle with a single red-blue-yellow feather in its wing, proposed by
Salve Nilsen.
1.2.4. GRAY eagle with a COLOR feather, precision proposed by James Smith.
1.2.5. Camel with wings, proposed by Ken Williams.
1.3. Other ideas
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1.3.1. Meld Pro, anagram proposed by Robin Berjon.
1.3.2. Red brick base of a building, with mod_perl inscribed on a brass
plaque, proposed by John Burns.
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2. Known graphic resources
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2.1. Various eagles and other birds, depository maintained by Victor
Zamouline.
http://www.jazzvalley.com/modperl/symbols/index.html
Selected by Stas out of the above:
http://www.jazzvalley.com/images/modperl/animals/birds/gif/hawk7.gif
http://www.jazzvalley.com/images/modperl/animals/birds/gif/baldegl1.gif
http://www.jazzvalley.com/images/modperl/animals/birds/gif/baldegl3.gif
2.2. Watermarks/sketches around the "Eagle" and "powered by" ideas, proposed
by Salve Nilsen.
http://sjn.nvg.org/mod_perl/watermark
2.3. Elephant resources, referred to by Ken Williams.
http://www.reno.quik.com/snow/elephant.html
http://www.lazoo.org/elephants/elephant_facts.html
http://www.lazoo.org/elephants/ELEPHANT.GIF
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3. Pros and cons
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3.1. Should the name change?
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3.1.1.
Perhaps, just maybe, it should be Doug's decision whether mod_perl needs a
name change?
(Jason Bodnar)
3.1.2.
Personally, I think the name mod_perl should be kept, and mod_perl hackers
should start referring to themselves as "The Mod Squad". A logo could be
created based on the shape of Linc's hair from the Mod Squad TV series.
(David Emery)
3.1.3.
Keep the name! Why in the world should we throw away an established brand
name? mod_perl is recognizable, it tells something about what it is about,
and isn't too "flashy". If we need to say something about the abilities,
then let's do that with a logo and perhaps some catchphrase...
(Salve Nilsen)
3.2. Bridge or independent product?
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3.2.1.
This talk is about a commercial success. The
/perl.apache.org/logos/mod_perl.gif logo represents a bridge between two
products (makes one think of a gadget!), not really a product. I remember my
first interest to Java associated with the coffee cup, or my first interest
to Perl associated with the camel, or even Apache's feather.
(Victor Zamouline)
3.2.2.
In the case of an
"independent product", I think that Mod_Perl should have its own isolated
symbol. What if some webmasters will also want to include their tribute to
Perl and Apache on their pages? Then, the three logos aligned together make
a perfect family.
(Victor Zamouline)
3.2.3.
But that is what it is. A very cool bridge indeed, but a bridge.
(Ask Bjoern Hansen)
3.3. Symbols
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3.3.1.
I was thinking about hedgehog as one that
protected from everything, exactly like mod_perl...
(Stas Bekman)
3.3.2.
I suggest we keep the camel.
Maybe give him lots of muscle with the apache feather
in there somewhere.
(Baiju Thakkar)
3.3.3.
What about the red brick base of a building, with mod_perl inscribed on
a brass plaque?
Suggestions of sturdiness, of foundation, and "for-all-seasons" come to
mind.
Since the logo might show the intersection of building and ground, one
version could have tufts of grass, the other snow. It could adapted, much in
the
way the Linux penguin is adapted and co-opted banners and such.
(John Burns)
3.3.4.
The Eagle idea sounds really strong and symbolic behind ModPerl, and the
graphical image of it would be highly customizable, portable, simple and
color-independent.
(Victor Zamouline)
3.3.5.
"The association between the image of a white-tailed eagle and the
topic of Apache modules is a trademark of O'Reilly & Associates."
(Jim Winstead)
3.3.6.
How about an oyster? Perhaps not as american-patriotic but just think how
sexy it sounds.
(Randy Harmon)
3.3.7.
The O'Reilly Eagle is a Tawny Eagle.
Thar be golden, spotted, bald, imperial, harpy ... well, plenty to go
around.
(Michael Dearman)
3.3.8.
If it is an eagle, we can use anything as long as it isn't a
"white-tailed eagle" the association of which with "the topic of Apache
modules" is (c) O'Reilly.
A whatever-color tailed eagle will not violate the
copyright imho. Or to read it in a less stupid way, any other type of eagle
(there are a certain number) even if it happens to have a white tail.
(Robin Berjon)
3.3.9.
Or even the head of a camel on an eagles body? I guess you could call it
an Eamel ;-)
(Bill Desjardins)
3.3.10.
I'd rather see a camel with wings. Seems like an eagle without wings isn't
much of an eagle, and a camel without a hump isn't much of a camel. Just
like mod_perl gives you all the power of Apache & Perl together?
(Ken Williams)
3.3.11.
An elephant: never forgets, it towers over the other animals in
the jungle, it's often hunted by evil human predators, one can easily afix a
saddle to ride on top, it's smart: "They have the biggest brain (12
lbs.)..", it's thick skinned.
Couple problems though, it might be tough to make an elephant look "cool"
(shades?), and the obvious jab: mod_perl = elephant = big footprint = proof:
ps aux | grep apache :-o
(Jay J)
