Stas Bekman wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Perrin Harkins wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Bill Moseley wrote:
> > > I hope I didn't miss anything in the Guide at install.html and in
> > > control.html, but I was looking for any suggestions on upgrading mod_perl
> > > and Perl on a running production machine to limit the amount of down time.
> >
> > We use RPMs.  Some form of package, even if it's just a tarball, is a good
> > idea.  Build it on a different server and then just install it.  Having
> > multiple servers really comes in handy here because you can take some off
> > line, upgrade them while the others are live, and then switch.  Then your
> > site remains up the whole time.
> 
> The problem of the tar-ball is that it doesn't know to cleanup previously
> installed files. Imagine a situation where some module that was previously
> installed in perl5/5.00503 now installed in perl5/site_perl/5.005 -- You
> get the problem where the old version is loaded before the new one.
> 
> Therefore tar-ball is not a good solution, unless you scratch the whole
> tree a moment before you untar the ball.

Ah - what about this ...

install (using tarballs complie target dirs) in a
package_name-version_number directory.

Then symlink to that dir from where ever you need to.

My /usr/local looks like this on some of my production machines:

drwxr-xr-x    6 root     root         4096 Jun 28 16:25 BerkeleyDB.3.1
lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           13 Jul  7 06:21 apache ->
apache1.3.12/
drwxr-xr-x    3 root     root         4096 Jun 18 22:55 apache1.3.12
drwxr-xr-x    2 root     bin          4096 Jun 18 23:09 bin
drwxr-xr-x    2 root     root         4096 Jun 18 23:12 include
drwxr-xr-x    2 root     root         4096 Jun 15 18:15 lib
lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           30 Sep  2 11:57 mysql ->
/usr/local/mysql-3.23.23-alpha
drwxr-xr-x    7 root     root         4096 Jul 31 17:28
mysql-3.23.22-alpha
drwxr-xr-x    7 root     root         4096 Sep  2 11:14
mysql-3.23.23-alpha
drwxr-xr-x    2 root     bin          4096 Jun  8 21:42 sbin
drwxrwxr-x    9 root     root         4096 May 29 11:38 ssl


I can now roll back any new installs by just changing the symlink, and a
tarball of the required dir does the trick.

After testing I brought up new versions in the time in takes to make a
online command with a few &&'s in and apache is backup in the time it
takes for apache to restart - which depends on the ammount of perl
modules it needs to deal with etc ...

Greg Cope

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