AuthCookie won't help you here, it still sends a cookie back to the client.
Whatever you do, you will need to modify the response to the client to contain a
session id somewhere where you can get it back.

      From what you've said, you will need to modify the url in some way. It
      doesn't matter whether you store information in a server-side store or in
      the session key itself, you still need to stick it in the url somewhere
      and make sure that all relative links contain that key.

      Is there a handler out there that can munge relative urls in this way for
      static pages, perhaps as part of an Apache::Filter chain ?

      HTH,

      S.






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The problem for me with cookies is the fact that we are going to be serving WAP
phones that don't like cookies for obvious reasons.

The only thing I can think of is using server side cookies that are destroyed at
the end of the user session. Perhaps relating the server side cookie to a
Session ID storing the users password and username to compare against.

The problem with this is that I can't seem to install the AuthCookie module from
cpan. DOH!!!

Ian
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  Ian,

        Using cookies is just one way of overcoming the stateless nature of
http.
        The other ways that I know of are to modify the url in some way or to
put
        a hidden field in a form.

        The latter only works if you're processing forms of course so for
general
        viewing, you need to modify the URL. There are two ways that I have
heard
        about.

        1. modify the url to include a session key in the path. To serve html
        pages you'd need to write a custom content handler to rewrite all your
        outgoing page links to include the session key. I haven't seen one on
        CPAN, please let me know if you find one, I could use it too !

        2. authenticate the users and then redirect to a fake host
        session.www.somecorp.com/page/you/wanted/. Then you use a custom handler
        at the translation phase to strip the session key and recover the user
        name from whatever session store you're using.

        I haven't got beyond cookies myself but these are both avenues I need to
        explore in the next few months.

        HTH,

        Simon Wilcox






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  Hi all

  Is it possible to authenticate a user without having to use the unfriendly
login
  box provided by browsers, without using cookies?

  I have managed to authenticate a user once through some text fields on a HTML
  page but unfortunately this does not make the browser remember the user's
  authentication information. On subsequent requests to the same secure area
  apache requires that the user enters their credentials again.

  Is there a way around this? If so any help would be appreciated.

  Thanks

  Ian



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The problem for me with cookies is the fact that we are going to be serving WAP phones that don't like cookies for obvious reasons.
 
The only thing I can think of is using server side cookies that are destroyed at the end of the user session. Perhaps relating the server side cookie to a Session ID storing the users password and username to compare against.
 
The problem with this is that I can't seem to install the AuthCookie module from cpan. DOH!!!
 
Ian
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Ian,

      Using cookies is just one way of overcoming the stateless nature of http.
      The other ways that I know of are to modify the url in some way or to put
      a hidden field in a form.

      The latter only works if you're processing forms of course so for general
      viewing, you need to modify the URL. There are two ways that I have heard
      about.

      1. modify the url to include a session key in the path. To serve html
      pages you'd need to write a custom content handler to rewrite all your
      outgoing page links to include the session key. I haven't seen one on
      CPAN, please let me know if you find one, I could use it too !

      2. authenticate the users and then redirect to a fake host
      session.www.somecorp.com/page/you/wanted/. Then you use a custom handler
      at the translation phase to strip the session key and recover the user
      name from whatever session store you're using.

      I haven't got beyond cookies myself but these are both avenues I need to
      explore in the next few months.

      HTH,

      Simon Wilcox






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Hi all

Is it possible to authenticate a user without having to use the unfriendly login
box provided by browsers, without using cookies?

I have managed to authenticate a user once through some text fields on a HTML
page but unfortunately this does not make the browser remember the user's
authentication information. On subsequent requests to the same secure area
apache requires that the user enters their credentials again.

Is there a way around this? If so any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

Ian












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