Hi, Win32 issues might be slightly OT here, but I really would like to find my way around/a solution concerning the AS 5.6.0 618 / 1.24_01 combo crashing Apache during a service shutdown/stop. This was discussed at ng comp.lang.www-servers.ms-windows ( Subject: mod_perl and ActiveState perl (v5.6.0 618)) recently, but the thread died somehow. To me this is totally weird, but I mysteriously got rid of the crashing when additionally loading PHP4.0.2 as a DSO into the mod_perl enabled server. Why this works is a total mystery to me, but it may give a clue to what is failing to someone else... OS is NT (sp4) If anyone is interested in trying this out for themselves, a pre-compiled PHP 4.0.2 binary (mod_php.dll) is available at http://www.geocities.com/ro_marius/mod_php4.html you'll also need the core php-lib from the latest php Win32 binary dist, namely phpts.dll (~860kb) Place the lib in the server-root dir, add a LoadModule directive into the ap-conf and install >> kickstart a service-instance of "Apache/1.3.14 (Win32) PHP/4.0.2 mod_perl/1.24_01" Now, hopefully, your AS 5.6.0 618 / 1.24_01 / 1.3.14 service no longer crashes at a shutdown/stop. thomas.