> The front end server must be configured to understand SSL. Otherwise, how
> else can the HTTP request be pulled apart (decrypted) to understand that
it
> has to be forwarded to the backend server.

2 words: dumb proxy.  The request doesn't need to be pulled apart by the
front-end server in this case.  The entire virtualhost is supposed to be
tunneled directly to the back-end server.  That's what I'm trying to figure
out how to do...

> If you configure the back-end server to understand SSL, that's OK, but
> beware that all mod_proxy is doing is establishing one SSL connection from
> browser to mod_proxy and then a brand new SSL connection from mod_proxy to
> the backend server. 2 separate SSL sessions because SSL cannot (ie
> inconvenient to) be man-in-the-middled.

I know that. The key is (and must be) on the back-end server.  Which is why
I'm trying to do it this way.  The mod_perl book seemed to imply that this
was possible, and I _know_ that mod_proxy is supposed to recognize CONNECT
requests for this very purpose - it says so in the manual...  I just don't
know how to set it up properly...

> It has some likelihood to also to be inefficient because I am not entirely
> sure that mod_proxy is caching the SSL client session key that it
generates
> to connect to the back-end server as the browser normally does for the
> front end.

I'm not even sure that mod_proxy can be it's own SSL client...  The
documentation says it knows how to handle incoming CONNECTS, but I'm not
sure that it could make its own HTTPS request...

  Issac

> At 03:26 PM 7/25/2001 +0200, Issac Goldstand wrote:
> >I am trying to make a back-end mod_perl/mod_ssl server.  The front-end
> >server that is currently in place is doing a great job forwarding normal
> >requests to the back-end, but it is not forwarding SSL.  Now, the
front-end
> >server does not understand SSL, itself.  What I'm doing is trying to
force
> >the entire VirtualHost listening on port 443 to an IP on a private subnet
on
> >an obscure port (what I do for all the back-end servers.  There are
actually
> >3 of them doing various things).  But it won't work.  The strange thing
is
> >that if I go to http://mysite:443/ I get the default Apache "It Worked"
> >page, but https://mysite/ generates an error saying that the front end
> >cannot understand, which seems to be pointing at the fact that it's not
> >forwarding ANYTHING to the back-end server...
> >
> >Stas & Eric: This situation is mentioned in your book, but in nowhere
enough
> >detail.  IMHO, that segment of the book (near the end of chapter "Server
> >Setup Strategies for the Best Performance") should be redone in better
> >detail to explain forwarding SSL to the back-end server.
> >
> >   Issac
> >
> >Internet is a wonderful mechanism for making a fool of
> >yourself in front of a very large audience.
> >   --Anonymous
> >
> >Moving the mouse won't get you into trouble...  Clicking it might.
> >   --Anonymous
> >
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>
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