David Scott wrote:
I really want to believe that "enterprise" systems are better than simple ones. I really want to believe that tools like Eclipse improve productivity. And I really want to believe that Zend/PHP is doing something new by "integrating" with other languages on "enterprise" platforms.

Come on, you don't really believe all that... "enterprise" just means it costs more, in rare cases is better managed, and has a factor of 10 more layers of abstraction than are necessary.

Luckily I'm still at the start-up stage - in-house mod_perl CMS, and my hair isn't too pointy... yet.

Perl is seen as unsafe and marginal, partly because the design of the language really does assume that developers possess intelligence somewhat beyond the Neanderthal level. That scares the shit out of managers.

Bonus points for mod_perl advocacy, but I think it's more that Perl is the quiet prodigy - it doesn't have an acronym created by IBM, Microsoft haven't released Visual Perl++ Gold Pro Special Edition, doesn't feature in news articles, but quietly runs some very big-name sites.

However, the original point was more along the lines of mod_perl being an 'environment' in which 'things' (Objects, Snippets, Scripts, whatevers) written in other languages can be executed.

This doesn't make it necessarily "enterprisey" but would allow the various frameworks (Mason, TT et al) to widen their developer audience, and allow mod_perl to become the basis of the next enterprisey-acronym-used-by-the-media.

cheers
John

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