>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jack L. Stone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>
>Then, there is the question of a wildcard cert which I 
>understand can be
>used for several vhosts without setting off alarms on the browser.

Search the archives for posts about wildcards - this comes up from time
to time and a few weeks ago John Airey gave a good summary of the
situation (basically, they're getting harder and harder to get).

>If there is anyone who would be willing to share with me their 
>httpd.conf setup when using vhosting, I would be forever greatful. 

It's no mystery - you just need to ensure that the different VHs are
distinguished at the TCP/IP layer (i.e. only one VH per IP/port number
pair). You cannot use application layer attributes (such as the Host
header) to define VHs because the SSL channel must be established before
any application layer traffic occurs.

Rgds,
Owen Boyle
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>Offlist would be
>fine if need for privacy.
>
>Thanks.....
>
>>>
>>>It's IP and/or port based.  But, do remember, if port based 
>then one is
>>>server only one cert, and the trouble is making sure the cert is
>>>constructed in a fashoin such that hostnames are not contained 
>>>within the CN and such.  In this case, and others can 
>correct me if I'm 
>>>wrong here, you would need to generate the cert on the IP 
>rather then 
>>>FDQN.  And I'm not sure openssl allows such a cert, but 
>others might well
>be 
>>>better clued then I on this <smile>.
>>
>>A server cert bound to an IP address wouldn't make much sense 
>(not sure if
>you can even do it).
>>
>>The thing to remember is that SSL is about two things - encryption and
>authentication. For encryption to work you just need to send 
>the server's
>public key to the client - the hostname is not important. 
>However, for the
>authentication aspect, it is essential that the the common name in the
>server cert matches the FQDN in the client request. Put it 
>another way, you
>surf to amazon.com and are about to type in your credit card number but
>then you look inside the server cert and see that it is registered to
>"shady-character.com". Do you still send your card number? This is why
>browsers always complain when you use a test or self signed 
>certificate if
>the CN doesn't match the FQDN.
>>
>>So, while you can have an encrypted session with an untrusted 
>server, in
>the real world it doesn't make much sense to do so. Encryption 
>is sending
>your money to the bank in an armoured car, authentication is 
>making sure
>the armoured car actually goes to the bank.
>>
>>Rgds,
>>Owen Boyle
>>
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>Ron DuFresne
>>>
>>>On Wed, 19 Feb 2003, Jack L. Stone wrote:
>>>
>>>> Please excuse the top post:
>>>> 
>>>> Ian or anyone, are you sure that a wildcard setup won't 
>>>work....??? Just
>>>> getting ready to do a fresh install involvoing vhosts and 
>>>this will become
>>>> an important issue.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> 
>>>> At 10:02 AM 2.19.2003 -0700, Ian Moon wrote:
>>>> >I believe that I read somewhere that you must have a different
>>>> >ip address for each ssl virtualhost.
>>>> >
>>>> >Ian Moon
>>>> >
>>>> >On Wed, 19 Feb 2003, Boyle Owen wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> >-----Original Message-----
>>>> >> >From: Steve Pirk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>>> >> >Sent: Donnerstag, 6. Februar 2003 02:02
>>>> >> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> >> >Subject: Multiple SSL VirtualHosts in apache
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >I check the mail archives, but could not find a good
>>>> >> >answer for this "problem" I am having.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >I am building out a dev environment using apache
>>>> >> >on Solaris. The dev environment needs to run under
>>>> >> >SSL (to simulate the production environment). I am
>>>> >> >starting with 4 virtual servers. They all use the
>>>> >> >same cert file, but are on different ports.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >The problem I am running into is that only the "first"
>>>> >> >VirtualHost works. Requests to subsequent ports result
>>>> >> >in a mod_ssl:error:HTTP-request error. Here is the error_log
>>>> >> >entry:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >[Wed Feb  5 16:45:11 2003] [error] mod_ssl: SSL 
>>>handshake failed: HTTP
>>>> >> >spoken on HTTPS port; trying to send HTML error page 
>>>(OpenSSL library
>>>> >> >error follows)
>>>> >>
>>>> >> This looks like you typed http://server:7001/ into the 
>>>browser. You
>>>> >> still need to define https even if you have the port 
>number, i.e.
>>>> >> https://server:7001/.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Can you confirm that if you do this, you still get an error?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Rgds,
>>>> >> Owen Boyle
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> >[Wed Feb  5 16:45:11 2003] [error] OpenSSL: error:1407609C:SSL
>>>> >> >routines:SSL23_GET_CLIENT_HELLO:http request [Hint: speaking
>>>> >> >HTTP to HTTPS
>>>> >> >port!?]
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >This is being used in conjunction with an auth package,
>>>> >> >but the redirect after logging in is https://
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >Does anyone knnow of a good way to have multiple
>>>> >> >SSL virtual servers on one apache instance?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> The way you are doing it is fine. You just have a probelm...
>>>> >>
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >Here is a sample of httpd.conf. In this case, port 7000
>>>> >> >works, but 7001 and 7002 get the mod_ssl error.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >  <VirtualHost 172.16.202.25:7000>
>>>> >> >    DocumentRoot        /some/doc/root
>>>> >> >    SSLEngine on
>>>> >> >    SSLCertificateFile    /usr/local/apache/certs/my_cert.crt
>>>> >> >    SSLCertificateKeyFile /usr/local/apache/certs/my_cert.key
>>>> >> >  </VirtualHost>
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >  <VirtualHost 172.16.202.25:7001>
>>>> >> >    DocumentRoot        /some/doc/root
>>>> >> >    SSLEngine on
>>>> >> >    SSLCertificateFile    /usr/local/apache/certs/my_cert.crt
>>>> >> >    SSLCertificateKeyFile /usr/local/apache/certs/my_cert.key
>>>> >> >  </VirtualHost>
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >  <VirtualHost 172.16.202.25:7002>
>>>> >> >    DocumentRoot        /some/doc/root
>>>> >> >    SSLEngine on
>>>> >> >    SSLCertificateFile    /usr/local/apache/certs/my_cert.crt
>>>> >> >    SSLCertificateKeyFile /usr/local/apache/certs/my_cert.key
>>>> >> >  </VirtualHost>
>
>
>Best regards,
>Jack L. Stone,
>Administrator
>
>SageOne Net
>http://www.sage-one.net
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