Hi Dave,
I remember you saying 2 years ago at the Classic that despite fitting an 
aluminium rad it didn't seem to have done much good and you were still running 
too hot. 
It is strange that it only happens when stationary though as a decent rad and 
fan should soon pull down the temperature.
As Andy says, I would do all the basic checks first especially as the rad 
didn't fix the overheating.
 
1. Does the electric cooling fan still use the standard switch in the cylinder 
head or was it replaced with a switch that senses from the matrix - either way 
my handbook says the switch should be set to start the fan at 94*C and cut back 
out when temp drops to 86*C
2. Does the fan run at full speed, is it single or 2 speed fan?
5. Were your  top and bottom hoses replaced and or in good condition and not 
collapsing at tickover.
6. System may not have been backflushed when radiator was replaced - do you 
know when it was last backflushed and filled with fresh 50/50 anti freeze - 
bottle of water wetter doesn't go amiss either (Red Line or Millers)  
7. Have you checked the twater hermostat is opening - standard thermostat 
should be fully open at 88*C - don't just replace it as you need to test to 
prove this is or isn't the problem
8.Replace radiator cap if it is the original
9. Does the coolant stay up to the mark in the remote header tank - even if it 
runs hot it should not lose any coolant
10. Of course the water pump itself could be faulty - although they tend to get 
noisy and or weep a bit first before seizing - worth checking before replacing 
a pulley though. Don't know what it does to the belt adjustment if you fit a 
smaller pulley
11.Is aluminium rad a roadgoing version and not a full blown oversized 4.6 
racing version as they need speed to generate maximum cooling and may not work 
so well in traffic as they aren't designed for that.
12. Do you run the engine with oil up to the mark and does the level have an 
affect on your problem - does dipstick fully push in and is it the correct dip 
stick length - low oil can make a difference to engine temperature if the level 
is marginal.
Hope you sort it out
 
Richard M800RGN+8

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From: Andy Garlick <[email protected]>
To: mogtalk2 <[email protected]> 
Sent: Tuesday, 17 July 2012, 21:07
Subject: Re: [mogtalk2] Plus eight water pump. Technical

Dave 
Before going down such a route consider some (debatably) easier options:

1 Is the car chipped? This will richen the mixture slightly and help it run 
cooler. Is the air filter clean? Are you sure it is allowing the engine to 
breathe sufficiently? Try a K & N type? Are you sure there are no air leaks 
allowing the engine to lean off? 
2 Is the alloy radiator larger than the original , or the same size? My Mulfab 
one is deeper by several cms.
3 Are you sure you don't have any air locks in the cooling sytem?
4 Have you changed the expansion tank cap recently, they can age and allow the 
water to boil at a lower temperature.
5 Have you backflushed the system recently , crud in the bottom of the rad can 
affect water flows a lot. 
6 Is the number plate or anything else impeding the air flow into the radiator 
core? 
7 Are you positive that you don't have any head gasket issues? 

Regards
Andy 





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>From: Dave Ager <[email protected]>
>To: mogtalk2 <[email protected]> 
>Sent: Tuesday, 17 July 2012, 20:43
>Subject: [mogtalk2] Plus eight water pump. Technical
>Hi All.My plus eight has the normal problem of getting hot when stationary.I 
>have opened the rear of the bonnet 40mm and fitted an aluminium rad.Still have 
>a slight issue.Before fitting an oil cooler a guy at LeMans suggested fitting 
>a smaller pulley to the water pump to draw more water through the system.With 
>a standard 97 3.9 hotwire I believe I may have room on the pump to try this, 
>engine doesn't rev as high as a worked 4.6.However before I start machining a 
>billet I would like to check the pump characteristics to ensure I don't end up 
>with cavitation in the pump.Currently toying with a 10-15 % speed increase.Now 
>the point . Can anyone provide a spec for the water pump, preferably with 
>characteristic curves.Thanks in advance.Dave97 plus 
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3. Is fan wired correctly and running the correct way i.e. pulling air through 
the matrix and not blowing it back as they are designed to work one way only - 
don't know if its possible for the rotor to be fitted backwards on the shaft 
either
4.. Do you know your temperature gauge actually displays the correct temperature


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