John
The original MMC centre lock alloys were 6.5 x 16 I think , same as the wires 
for the +8 . If the Morgan Spares are 5.5 x 15 then they are made somewhere 
else 

They are nice wheels BUT they had a reputation for the locking nut seizing on, 
and needing major surgery to remove.

If you do take this option make sure you remove the wheels at least twice a 
year and re-grease them.

Andy 



>________________________________
> From: John Linkosky <[email protected]>
>To: mogtalk2 <[email protected]> 
>Sent: Tuesday, 17 April 2012, 11:53
>Subject: RE: [mogtalk2] rusty chrome wires
> 
>
>Has anyone tried the centerlock alloys? They are offered by Moss Motors and 
>several other suppliers here in the US as a direct replacement for wire 
>wheels. They are  a bit pricey but do not require replacing the hubs, etc. 
>They are available in size 15 x 5.5 which should fit the Morgans.
> 
>From:A11OGE 4/4 4 seater [mailto:[email protected]] 
>Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 10:06 AM
>To: mogtalk2
>Subject: Re: [mogtalk2] rusty chrome wires
> 
>To change from wires to alloys I understand that you need to change the hubs 
>and a lot more. I would suggest getting a set of winter wires. These should of 
>the painted type.
>
>-- 
>Steve A11OGE Red 4/4 4 seater
>On 16 April 2012 14:48, andy begg <[email protected]> wrote:
>Thanks Owen.
> 
>Yes, I have the salty Scottish roads to deal plus the Irish sea is 60ft from 
>our front door on a good day and running down it on a bad day.
> 
>I was thinking of getting alloys fitted so that I can work on the wire ones. I 
>think the spokes are ok - it is the rims that are starting to age. But I 
>suppose if the rims are suffering then the wires will be also.
> 
>The car came with the wires factory fitted - is it easy enought to switch to 
>alloys? Are the alloys special size/fitting for the Plus 8 or can other 
>suppliers wheels be used?
> 
>cheers
> 
>Andy in sunny (at the moment) Portpatrick.
> 
>
>________________________________
>
>From:Owen Jenkins <[email protected]>
>To: mogtalk2 <[email protected]> 
>Sent: Monday, 16 April 2012, 11:17
>Subject: Re: [mogtalk2] rusty chrome wires
> 
> 
>Andy,
>There's a lot of pseudo-science talked about WD40. If you find it helps you 
>with your cleaning activity, use it. It does help when trying to remove rust - 
>we used loads of it when I was working offshore in the 1970's for helping to 
>free up badly rusted items and cleaning them up. As I'm sure you know, it's a 
>water dispersant. It's a type of surfactant which has a lipid (fatty) end and 
>a polar end. The former sticks to the metal, the latter attracts the water and 
>lifts it off the surface.It thus binds up the water. It is not effective as a 
>long-term corrosion inhibitor. Any kind of wax is better. Things like Turtle 
>Wax and Simoniz Paste Wax or even beeswax (all of which come in flat tins and 
>are extremely hard work to use) are reassuringly effective. Having induced 
>chronic rheumatism in your elbows, you'll be pleased with the way your wheels 
>look. 
> 
>The only cure for rusted chrome wires is to replace the spokes affected. I've 
>had several break on my 1988 4/4 as a result of stress corrosion and fatigue. 
>Having eventually tracked down the right spokes, thanks to BHM, my local 
>garage in Aboyne replaced them for me. They fix everything from wheelbarrows 
>to earth movers via Fords, Bristols, Aston Martins and Morgans. We are very 
>lucky.
> 
>Chrome-plating wire spokes is a daft idea, viewed from the point of view of 
>materials science and selection. It's a recipe for stress corrosion 
>cracking and corrosion fatigue, given the constantly corrosive environment in 
>which car wheels exist and the fatigue loading which spokes see. But never 
>mind. They look nice when clean. I wipe mine  on the outside with an oily 
>rag every time I clean the car - which is usually at least twice a year, 
>though sometimes less. The old dull zinc, galvanised wire used for cheap 
>bicycle wheels is extremely hard to beat for sheer practicality. It may not 
>look attractive, but it's a sound engineering solution.
> 
>Stainless steel spokes aren't bad, but they can suffer crevice, fretting and 
>pitting corrosion which could lead to premature failure, particularly on salty 
>Scottish roads.
> 
>As Brian and others have pointed out in the past, the Morgan alloy wheels have 
>much to commend them, from an engineering standpoint, provided they are well 
>painted. But don't hit a rock sideways with them!  They break. I have an 
>umbrella stand in the back garden made from a Morgan +8 wheel to prove it.
> 
>Cheers,
>Owen in chilly Aboyne, 50 miles south of Ron!
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