John

William Lamb III's car has them.
Are you there William?

Brian of SpotMog

On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Andy Garlick <[email protected]>wrote:

>  John
> The original MMC centre lock alloys were 6.5 x 16 I think , same as the
> wires for the +8 . If the Morgan Spares are 5.5 x 15 then they are made
> somewhere else
>
> They are nice wheels BUT they had a reputation for the locking nut seizing
> on, and needing major surgery to remove.
>
> If you do take this option make sure you remove the wheels at least twice
> a year and re-grease them.
>
> Andy
>
>   ------------------------------
> *From:* John Linkosky <[email protected]>
> *To:* mogtalk2 <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 17 April 2012, 11:53
> *Subject:* RE: [mogtalk2] rusty chrome wires
>
>   Has anyone tried the centerlock alloys? They are offered by Moss Motors
> and several other suppliers here in the US as a direct replacement for wire
> wheels. They are  a bit pricey but do not require replacing the hubs, etc.
> They are available in size 15 x 5.5 which should fit the Morgans.
>
>  *From:* A11OGE 4/4 4 seater [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Monday, April 16, 2012 10:06 AM
> *To:* mogtalk2
> *Subject:* Re: [mogtalk2] rusty chrome wires
>
> To change from wires to alloys I understand that you need to change the
> hubs and a lot more. I would suggest getting a set of winter wires. These
> should of the painted type.
>
> --
> Steve A11OGE Red 4/4 4 seater
>  On 16 April 2012 14:48, andy begg <[email protected]> wrote:
>   Thanks Owen.
>
>  Yes, I have the salty Scottish roads to deal plus the Irish sea is 60ft
> from our front door on a good day and running down it on a bad day.
>
>  I was thinking of getting alloys fitted so that I can work on the wire
> ones. I think the spokes are ok - it is the rims that are starting to age.
> But I suppose if the rims are suffering then the wires will be also.
>
>  The car came with the wires factory fitted - is it easy enought to
> switch to alloys? Are the alloys special size/fitting for the Plus 8 or can
> other suppliers wheels be used?
>
>  cheers
>
>  Andy in sunny (at the moment) Portpatrick.
>
>   ------------------------------
>  *From:* Owen Jenkins <[email protected]>
> *To:* mogtalk2 <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Monday, 16 April 2012, 11:17
> *Subject:* Re: [mogtalk2] rusty chrome wires
>
>  
>  Andy,
>  There's a lot of pseudo-science talked about WD40. If you find it helps
> you with your cleaning activity, use it. It does help when trying to remove
> rust - we used loads of it when I was working offshore in the 1970's for
> helping to free up badly rusted items and cleaning them up. As I'm sure you
> know, it's a water dispersant. It's a type of surfactant which has a lipid
> (fatty) end and a polar end. The former sticks to the metal, the latter
> attracts the water and lifts it off the surface.It thus binds up the water.
> It is not effective as a long-term corrosion inhibitor. Any kind of wax is
> better. Things like Turtle Wax and Simoniz Paste Wax or even beeswax (all
> of which come in flat tins and are extremely hard work to use) are
> reassuringly effective. Having induced chronic rheumatism in your elbows,
> you'll be pleased with the way your wheels look.
>
>  The only cure for rusted chrome wires is to replace the spokes affected.
> I've had several break on my 1988 4/4 as a result of stress corrosion and
> fatigue. Having eventually tracked down the right spokes, thanks to BHM, my
> local garage in Aboyne replaced them for me. They fix everything from
> wheelbarrows to earth movers via Fords, Bristols, Aston Martins and
> Morgans. We are very lucky.
>
>  Chrome-plating wire spokes is a daft idea, viewed from the point of view
> of materials science and selection. It's a recipe for stress corrosion
> cracking and corrosion fatigue, given the constantly corrosive environment
> in which car wheels exist and the fatigue loading which spokes see. But
> never mind. They look nice when clean. I wipe mine  on the outside with an
> oily rag every time I clean the car - which is usually at least twice a
> year, though sometimes less. The old dull zinc, galvanised wire used for
> cheap bicycle wheels is extremely hard to beat for sheer practicality. It
> may not look attractive, but it's a sound engineering solution.
>
>  Stainless steel spokes aren't bad, but they can suffer crevice,
> fretting and pitting corrosion which could lead to premature failure,
> particularly on salty Scottish roads.
>
>  As Brian and others have pointed out in the past, the Morgan alloy
> wheels have much to commend them, from an engineering standpoint, provided
> they are well painted. But don't hit a rock sideways with them!  They
> break. I have an umbrella stand in the back garden made from a Morgan +8
> wheel to prove it.
>
>  Cheers,
>  Owen in chilly Aboyne, 50 miles south of Ron!
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