Tim,
I like the idea of what you are saying. I have a fault code reader/cancelling 
device. It cost a lot more than £30, but that's by the by. I bought it from 
Halford's. 'Nuff said.

Now, to demonstrate to me that what you say is true, tell me what this fault 
code means: P.1316; and how I cure the fault. It's one I get often from my 4.0 
litre, Land Rover V-8 powered, 2003 +8.

If you can tell me, you can also tell the MMC - they don't know, nor do any of 
the dealers I've taken it to. Nor does the AA.

I just cancel the code and carry on as before. Nothing seems to happen except 
that it occurs again, sooner or later.

I gather Rover used to charge about £5 grand for their Testbook set-up. I'm not 
prepared to spend that on diagnostic equipment.

Owen.



----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Tim Harris 
  To: mogtalk2 
  Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 5:52 PM
  Subject: Re: [mogtalk2] Miscellany





  On 10 May 2012 10:33, Chas. <[email protected]> wrote:

     Of course on the technical front there is much less you can do at home 
with modern electronics than you could with points and tappets.



  Sadly, this myth has been well and truly sold to many people, who honestly 
believe that you can't work with modern cars at home.


  Routine servicing is much easier than it used to be, spark plugs only have to 
be changed once in a blue moon, tappets, never need attention, all you really 
have to do is change the oil and check the fluids - and yet strangely the costs 
we get charged by the dealer are vastly higher than ever they used to be.


  Cheapest entry point is 30 quid or so, which buys a code reader with which 
you can interpret any stored fault codes and clear them (a process which a 
dealer would charge 70 quid plus for). Plug the reader into the OBDII socket, 
download the codes, look up what they mean, fix the offending part. Perfect for 
identifying and cleaning or replacing a dirty MAF sensor or similar.


  If you want to spend a bit more money, then a couple of hundred quid on a 
laptop, a copy of the relevant software (e.g. Rovacom for a GEMS +8) and you 
can furtle to your heart's content, really getting to grips with what your 
engine's up to.


  If you want to get properly ambitious, then you can buy a complete 
replacement ECU from someone like Omex (who supply MMC), Emerald, or MBE, and 
completely remap and reprogram your entire performance envelope.


  And if you want to go completely OTT, you can even build you own engine 
management system from scratch with Megasquirt.


  I fully understand that messing about with one's engine is not everyone's cup 
of tea - and fair enough, I wouldn't try to convince anyone to do stuff they 
don't want to, but I would hate to think there are people out there who think 
'I wish I could work on my modern Mog like I used to with my old one".


  It's a different set of skills, sure, but certainly not beyond an average 
enthusiast mechanic. I reckon that adjusting one's fuelling map with a laptop 
is a heck of a lot more straightforward than trying to understand the 
complexities of twin DCOEs.


  Tim


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