Hi Brian Many thanks for that, what you type makes perfect sense and explains a lot. I don't think anyone is really having a dig at the content but more the lack communication and guidance about what it is you want submitted. I have seen several requests for technical articles over the years so have sent and encouraged others to send them in. Few if any ever see the light of day. If that's an editorial decision then totally fine with that, that's the editor/editorial team choice. What is harder to understand is that when nothing appears, and further emails are sent asking how the article could be reworked etc. nothing comes back. This is not just something I have experienced, indeed I have had a few articles published some years ago, but the experiences of many it seems.
Is it something that I (we) could request of you Brian, could you please take on board to raise this matter and ask for clarification and guidance on what exactly you on the editorial team would like to see, what depth of technical input (I could write reams on changing wheels but it would be useless V. an article on adaptive electronic ignition systems which would bore the pants off most!). Maybe we can start afresh, drop this subject and the members can give the editorial team the copy they want for the benefit of all, after all that's why we are moaning, if we did not care it would just be binned and most of us save them. ;-) BR Colin On 10 May 2012 12:35, Brian <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Chas > I trust you are well. You do predate me by several years as I joined in > 1968 and have enjoyed all my years with a great bunch of folk! > Like Chas I also edited Miscellany around 99,2000 when Cliff Baker retired > and just before Charles Neal. I do have every copy since it became a > regular monthly magazine in 1976. It has changed considerably over the > years, firstly the small A5 magazines although convenient in size were > getting to fat! You try keeping them open at a page and copying in a > challenge. > The change to a new format came about under the last year of Chris Rowe and > Cliff Baker's take over and the idea of moving to colour would need a > change > of printer. The then printers were primarily a business card type of > outfit. We first moved to part colour which made layout extremely > difficult > and frustrating as we wanted to maximise the use of colour with photos. > With modern technology full colour printing became affordable and we now > produce a magazine I am proud to be a part of. I will not deal with the > editorial side as this is mainly Charles Neal's province. > The common complaint is too much advertising. We it is around a third (20 > pages) of commercial advertising. All "Club" adverts for events, badges > etc > are not included in this figure and I see as an important part of the > magazine, it is a "Club" information tool. The commercial advertising pays > a good percentage of the cost of production. The main headache is the ever > increasing postage costs! As to the content of advertising this is of > course up to the advertisers some use professional designers some do it > themselves sending in pdf files of the finished copy and some send an email > with text and photos and let me sort out. I quite enjoy that part. > The change in "type" of member has changed considerably and we often > comment > in HopMog that we are becoming a dining club. But I am afraid that is the > way life is, although having worked on my Morgans in the past it is not > something I enjoyed and in later years more than happy to leave to > professionals and a total lack of either garage or off road areas made this > essential. I know by reading these emails that a lot of you still do enjoy > working on your Morgans but becoming fewer in number and with all the new > electronics on the engines it is becoming impossible to work on without a > great deal of up to date equipment and knowledge. > And of course Miscellany reflects these changes so more emphasis on trips > abroad and dinners and less on the mechanics. > C'est La Vie I am afraid. > > Must get on with the June magazine now. > > Brian > Pixham Moderator and Deputy Miscellany editor > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chas. [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 10 May 2012 10:34 > To: mogtalk2 > Subject: Re: [mogtalk2] Miscellany > > > Miscellany started off as a duplicated A4 sheet sent out every month, > progressing to a quarterly duplicated magazine, which went to all members, > home members receiving the monthly duplicated newsletter as well. Just been > going through some I edited in the 60s, much more competition then. When I > took over as secretary we had just over 220 members of which some 95% used > their cars on a daily basis and some 75% used them for some form of > competition. > In those days the Morgan was a cheap sports car not as it is today, in > 1965 the basic Morgan 4/4 cost more than the basic Mini but cheaper than > the > top of the range Mini. > The Club introduced the monthly Miscellany in April 1976, as I had edited > the newsletter I took over this publication, hard at times to get enough > articles but it all came together. Remember a bit of flack when I > introduced > the pin up photos on the rear cover, most members appreciated John's (John > H > Sheally11) photots, indeed many members and centres submitted similar. > As time went on, the membership increased, when I retired as secretary in > 1984, becoming the Clubs first Vice President,it stood at over 1700 > members. > In recent times the profile of the Morgan Owner has changed, no longer just > the enthusiast but because of the cost of the cars, a far more wealthy > person,a lot of which understand nothing about cars. To illustrate this one > Sunday a few years ago a member rang me up to identify a pool of liquid > under his Morgan, its usual weekend usage to go and get the papers, didn't > know if it was oil or water based. > As the owners profile changes the magazine must also change to reflect the > interests of the majority of owners. Of course on the technical front there > is much less you can do at home with modern electronics than you could with > points and tappets. > I can still "play" with my classic,a Mk.IV Spitfire, sadly cannot afford a > Morgan these days. > > Chas. 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