Thankx for the reply. I appreciate it. On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 17:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Some information... > > http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/4557 > > Miguel and Novell legal staff are currently conducting a formal patent review > of mono, and the team had already split up the components of mono into > separate ECMA-based and non-ECMA components (WinForms, ADO.NET, etc) to > clearly define what RedHat and others could make use of. > > Importantly, Miguel also said that Ximian had a letter from Microsoft, Intel > and HP stating that they would offer *royalty-free* RAND licensing to the > ECMA-submitted components of .NET. [Aside: He said they were kicking around > catchy names like 'polio' or 'cholera' to distinguish the free and non-free > stacks] I told Miguel he should publicize the letter more because it was such > a relief to me, but he said it would be premature to promote this before the > patent review was complete in case other infringement was uncovered. > > http://www.go-mono.com/faq.html#patents > > Most importantly: "For Linux server and desktop development, we only need the > ECMA components, and things that we have developed (like Gtk#) or Apache > integration." > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg06501.html > Read Andy Satori's very well though out response, also Miguel's second > response further down in the thread. I believe Andy hit the nail on the head > with regards to the possibility of MS imposing restrictions on Mono in the > future. MS are trying to better their image. They are now even releaseing old > source on sourceforge. They would not benefit from any future attack on Mono. > > http://nwc.linuxpipeline.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=20300445 > > Yet according to de Icaza, open source advocates have blown the royalty issue > out of proportion. "We already know that the ECMA components are > royalty-free," he stated. "To the best of my knowledge, I am not aware of any > libraries or other parts that would have to be licensed" under royalty terms > from Microsoft. > > "I think this issue comes up more because people in the open source community > are scared of Microsoft and because they're ill-informed about the issue," de > Icaza said. "We've spent a lot of time dealing with [the patent question], > and we're confident that we understand it." > > -------- > > I believe the Mono/Novell tem are working on an official legal standing for > Mono 1.0, so please wait until then before voicing growing concern for the > implications of development with the framework. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Simon Ask Ulsnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 11:34 AM > To: COOPER, Jonathan -Syntegra UK > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Mono-list] Is it Mono safe? > > Tell me again: > Why doesn't Novell/Ximian contact Microsoft to get it on paper that Mono _is_ > safe? > > (and if Microsoft refuses, can we actually be sure it is safe?) > > - Simon > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >I think one of the greatest barriers to adoption of mono by influential > >developers will always be the MS issue. Miguel has explained the legal > >situation over and over, but there are some linux users who will argue > >over the smallest detail wherever MS is concerned with a technology. > > > >It is unfortunate that the community will negate the fantastic success > >of the mono development guys through FUD and miscommunication. > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Melinda > >Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 6:40 AM > >To: Mono List > >Subject: [Mono-list] Is it Mono safe? > > > >Look over here: > >http://www.gnome.org/~seth/blog/mono > >and here: > >http://www.osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=7094 > > > >This is bad news.... :( > >How do you convince somebody to programming in Mono if he already read > >that news? > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Mono-list maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list > > > > > > > > > >******************************************************************** > > > >This email may contain information which is privileged or confidential. > >If you are not the intended recipient of this email, please notify the > >sender immediately and delete it without reading, copying, storing, > >forwarding or disclosing its contents to any other person Thank you > > > >Check us out at http://www.btsyntegra.com > > > >******************************************************************** > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Mono-list maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ******************************************************************** > > This email may contain information which is privileged or confidential. 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