Hi, Doug!

I don't have the sweet spot figured out; John or Jerry or some of the others
could give you a much better answer, but Miss T's mast is significantly
raked aft more than Busca's and she knocks Busca's socks off to weather,
even with reduced sail and the windage of a bimini.

The 17's big rudder is important as a lifting foil and takes some of the
load off the keel which, not being a deep fin loses out some in efficiency.

At some point you can over-do it though, and end up with a loss in
performance.

Tod

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Tod,

I agree with your 10 deg opinion altho it could easily
be 15 deg in some conditions.

What is this about loading some weather helm into the
equation - I always thought a slight weather helm to
neutral was best to avoid rudder drag!

Are you saying that give all other trim to be optimum
that a moderate weather helm helps you point better
than a light weather helm?

Thanks

Doug
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> Mike,
> 
> My guess is that having the board up loses you a
> good ten degrees.  And, I
> found while sailing with John Edwards how important
> it is to load the (big)
> rudder up too with some weather helm.
> 
> That said, I doubt a 17 could do as well as a good
> deep fin keeler like a
> J24 no matter what.
> 
> Tod
> 
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> 
> 
> point vs. speed. and is 40 degrees really possible
> 
> This afternoon I watched from the shore line two
> small sailboats racing each
> other. (outside Tampa Bay) One was a  Monty 17
> (looked like a reddish or
> dark orange stripe, bright sun ! ) the other looked
> like a Hunter 22. both
> had about the and speed but the Hunter was
> constantly able to point higher,
> But why should that be. Not being able to talk to
> the skippers I do not know
> if the board was down completely. But just how much difference would 
> the board all the way down make, would it improve the
> pointing by ? % or
> ?degrees.
> 
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