Yes, with more gap between the clevis ears, it means that the clevis pin is
in
less of a pure shear condition and instead carries both the shear and a bit
of
bending.  That doesn't necessarily mean that there is a problem, although I
suppose it could be argued that if the pin is capable of the extra load then
it is of bigger diameter and longer (read heavier/slower) than it would
otherwise
need to be, but that's kind of splitting hairs.

Tod

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Todd, No the chainplates are not thicker than 1/8 of an inch thats about the

thickness of the swag itself. MMM intresting point I had not noticed that 
the thicker the pin the thicker the jaw width.( The better to fit a thicker 
chainplate, grandma) ((littlle red rididng hood)) I thought the thicker the 
pin the heavier duty the application. But its still putting the stress on 
the body and bolt regardless of pin size. OK ....thats better, if thats the 
case I should be able to replace the 1/2" pin t-bolts with a more readily 
available 1/4" pin. I will hold off on ordering them until I gather some 
more data.

gilbert
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Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 10:55 PM
Subject: RE: M_Boats: turnbuckles


Gilbert,

Busca's t-bolts were a dead ringer for the ones in the West catalog; her
tops are not that large, just 1/4".  That diameter works pretty well because
then the gap between the clevis ears isn't excessively larger than the
thickness of the chainplates.

Sounds like you have oddball t-bolts.  Are your chainplates really heavy
too?

When setting Busca up one of the first times, I found (the hard way) that
the t-bolts can bend if the shrouds are allowed to flop over to the sides
out of position while the mast is being raised.  Now, I always check them
prior to hoisting.

Tod

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Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 7:47 PM
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Subject: Re: M_Boats: turnbuckles


I am replacing my t-bolts on my shrouds, it looks like all of them have some

bend to them, some more then others. Anyway Im trying to figure the specs. I

went to west marine, they sell the whole turnbuckle. I was able to size mine

with one of theirs. It looks like a 1/4" bolt . My question is the t-top of
my bolt measures 1/2" in diameter, thats twice the size as anything they
have in the same bolt size. Looking thru internet vendors they list a
"pin/jaw width" size of 1/4" which is kind of standard on the different
sites. Has anyone that has changed t-bolts on a M-17 remeber having to
downgrade to 1/4" pins?

gilbert


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