Jay,

The question of the suitability of the Honda 2hp and the M-17 has been an off and on subject of this forum for a number of years. Many of us think it is too small for more "strenuous" situations, others feel it is good for most situations. I posted the following back in 2005 and have yet to have an experience when the little Honda was not able to do the job.

Bill Sylvester
M-17  #279
Endelig
        
m:[email protected] 15 September 2005 • 9:37AM +0800

Re: M_Boats: Tiny Honda Vs. M-17
by gmhyde1
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Theoretical hull speed for a displacement hull is 1.34 * square root of
waterline length, which, for the M17 is 1.34* sq rt (15.833') = 5.33
knots.

Having said this, I plan to try my Honda 2 on my M17 when I get it.
--Gary Hyde
N24 'Sailabration'
M17 #637 'Hydeaway2'
M15 #235 'Vanilla'


On Sep 14, 2005, at 1:33 PM, William Sylvester wrote:

> I have been wanting to give my opinion of the Honda, long shaft, 4
> stroke, 2hp, pushing an M-17 since the discussion on outboards last
> year.  I was pretty well convinced that I had made a mistake using
> this setup.
> I liked the idea of a light motor, quiet, air cooled, and economical
> on gas.   I also liked how it fit neatly into the stock cutout in the
> transom.  It does not take up any room in the cockpit at all.
> Even though we have taken many trips with the tiny motor, we have
> never had to give it any test of pushing power.
> Yesterday we took a nice sail on a local lake.  The wind was about 5
> to 8 kts and we had a great morning and sailed downwind the five or so
> miles to the end of the lake and had lunch.  After lunch we started
> back and the wind picked up to 20+ kts (as measured by my hand held
> gauge) lots of whitecaps and an exciting sail.
> After a couple of tacks, we decided progress was too slow and we
> would motor back to the launch ramp.  As I went to start the little
> motor, I could hear you guys whispering in my ear.  "Bill, you should
> have got the 4hp."
> We pointed into the wind with the motor at a fast idle and lowered
> and secured the flapping sails.  We headed straight into the wind and
> chop and I sweated as moved the throttle to "slow"  (just below the
> start mark).  I watched the GPS for our overground speed and in a
> couple of minutes it was reading 4.5mph.
> I left the throttle on slow and we maintained that speed for the 4
> miles+ back to the ramp.  Comfortable and relatively dry trip.  Used
> about a cup of gas.
> I am becoming more confident of this tiny motor.  I know it won't
> fight the tides in the San Juans, but it will easily push the boat at
> hull speed, and with any luck we would make it.
>
> Bill and Darcy Sylvester
> M-17, #279
> Endelig
>
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