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Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 12:39 PM
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Subject: Re: M_Boats: Honda 2 HP for M17?

Jay,

        The question of the suitability of the Honda 2hp and the M-17 has  
been an off and on subject of this forum for a number of years.  Many  
of us think it is  too small for more "strenuous" situations,  others  
feel it is good for most situations.
        I posted the following back in 2005 and have yet to have an  
experience when the little Honda was not able to do the job.

Bill Sylvester
M-17  #279
Endelig
        
m:[email protected]         15 September 2005 . 9:37AM  
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Re: M_Boats: Tiny Honda Vs. M-17
by gmhyde1
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Theoretical hull speed for a displacement hull is 1.34 * square root of
waterline length, which, for the M17 is 1.34* sq rt (15.833') = 5.33
knots.

Having said this, I plan to try my Honda 2 on my M17 when I get it.
--Gary Hyde
N24 'Sailabration'
M17 #637 'Hydeaway2'
M15 #235 'Vanilla'


On Sep 14, 2005, at 1:33 PM, William Sylvester wrote:

 > I have been wanting to give my opinion of the Honda, long shaft, 4
 > stroke, 2hp, pushing an M-17 since the discussion on outboards last
 > year.  I was pretty well convinced that I had made a mistake using
 > this setup.
 > I liked the idea of a light motor, quiet, air cooled, and economical
 > on gas.   I also liked how it fit neatly into the stock cutout in the
 > transom.  It does not take up any room in the cockpit at all.
 > Even though we have taken many trips with the tiny motor, we have
 > never had to give it any test of pushing power.
 > Yesterday we took a nice sail on a local lake.  The wind was about 5
 > to 8 kts and we had a great morning and sailed downwind the five  
or so
 > miles to the end of the lake and had lunch.  After lunch we started
 > back and the wind picked up to 20+ kts (as measured by my hand held
 > gauge) lots of whitecaps and an exciting sail.
 > After a couple of tacks, we decided progress was too slow and we
 > would motor back to the launch ramp.  As I went to start the little
 > motor, I could hear you guys whispering in my ear.  "Bill, you should
 > have got the 4hp."
 > We pointed into the wind with the motor at a fast idle and lowered
 > and secured the flapping sails.  We headed straight into the wind and
 > chop and I sweated as moved the throttle to "slow"  (just below the
 > start mark).  I watched the GPS for our overground speed and in a
 > couple of minutes it was reading 4.5mph.
 > I left the throttle on slow and we maintained that speed for the 4
 > miles+ back to the ramp.  Comfortable and relatively dry trip.  Used
 > about a cup of gas.
 > I am becoming more confident of this tiny motor.  I know it won't
 > fight the tides in the San Juans, but it will easily push the boat at
 > hull speed, and with any luck we would make it.
 >
 > Bill and Darcy Sylvester
 > M-17, #279
 > Endelig
 >
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