Thanks Larry How do you reach Bob Erg? Does he sell centerboards for M-15
Captin James Albert Sadler skipper M-15 sailing vessel Pelican -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] sion.com]On Behalf Of Hughston, Larry Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 7:27 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: RE: M_Boats: M15 stuck centerboard Jim, I would leave the trunk untouched if it is not swollen. Go ahead and get a new lead with fiberglass exterior CB from Bob Eeg. I did that and glad I did. The old steel CB was truly an oxidized, bloated, crusty mess! The old CB had to be extracted by the marine repair professionals I use here in Sacramento. Not cheap but satisfied with the outcome. ---Larry (Monty 15 hull #189) -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ion.com] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 12:27 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: RE: M_Boats: M15 stuck centerboard The black liquid may have been grease from the punches. Since she is almost 25 years young, can't say what or how long the liquid has been inside. It looked like 1/2 water and 1/2 oil or light grease. I could not remove the punches. They are sealed in a clear gell, probaby epoxy. The ones I could see were not rusted. I do believe there is swelling inside the trunk. The ballast in CB and trunk is steel as per the magnet . If I ever have to remove the ballast, it will have to be done from the exterior side of the trunk (see Dauntless at http://www.havasumontgomerys.funtigo.com/ She had this done last year. If the CB works OK I sure won't attack the trunk any time soon. -- Thomas (Tom) Hauser EEOC Contract Investigator Post Office Box 981134 Park City, UT 84098-1134 435-640-8417 -------------- Original message from "Jim Sadler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: -------------- > Thanks Tom > > What do you think the "black liquid" was? What did you do to the > centerboard ballast to stop the rust? > Did you replace the balast in the centerboard? > > Captin Jim > skipper "Pelican" > > -----Original Message----- > From: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > sion.com]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 10:58 AM > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > Subject: RE: M_Boats: M15 stuck centerboard > > > Jim: > > I purchased Kestrel, M-15, # 175, last year in Monterey, CA. She spent > her > life in salt water. CB was stuck solid. Used auto floor jack, pry bar, > nylon straps, and plenty of soft language (!#., % * but nothing like #$$, or > ^&!$??>>!!). Took out the copper swivel pin also. After much labor, was > able to pry out CB. Opened the CB (4" x 4" inspection hole) and found about > 1/4 cup of black liquid. Punchings were sealed in fiberglas so not all were > corroded. > > Trunk may have problems but can't get to it without major surgery. > Sanded > CB down as much as possible and this gave it enough clearance to go back > into trunk with plenty of space to swing. > > Replaced the pennant with a smaller line, made sure knot was stuffed > inside > the recessed area at rear edge of CB. > > Before reinstalling brass swivel pin I placed a SS bolt. It sticks out > either side of trunk but won't hurt for one season. Am waiting one season > to make sure there is no further swelling (at least to impede CB), then will > replace swivel pin and fiberglas the holes on either side of trunk. > > Also, sailing only in fresh water may retard swelling. Put lots of > marine > bearing grease on CB. Double checked to make sure pennant is clear. So > far, so good. > > Regards. Tom > > > -- > Thomas (Tom) Hauser > EEOC Contract Investigator > Post Office Box 981134 > Park City, UT 84098-1134 > 435-640-8417 > > > -------------- Original message from "Jim Sadler" > : -------------- > > > > Thanks Rik > > > > Do you know of anyone who has performed "major surgery" for this > condition? > > What did they do? Do you know what form the 250 # of ballast is in? > > Is it > > steel punching? Does the surgery involve removing the ballast and maybe > > replacement with lead? > > > > Maybe the best way is to send "Pelican" to Davey Jones fleet. > > > > Jim Sadler > > skipper M-15 Pelican > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > sion.com]On Behalf Of Rik Sandberg > > Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 6:09 PM > > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > > Subject: Re: M_Boats: M15 stuck centerboard > > > > > > Jim, > > > > If that happens the problem is in the trunk, where the ballast is. A > > 15 > > has about 250 lbs of ballast. > > > > But I'd make darn sure the pennant isn't stuck down along-side the > > center board before I started any major surgery. > > > > Rik > > > > Jim Sadler wrote: > > > Question > > > > > > Is it the centerboad that swells or is it the trunk that swells. > > > Is > there > > > steel inside the trunk that swells? > > > I am sure this has been dicussed on the form but I don't know how to > > search > > > for a subject? > > > > > > Thanks for any suggestions or opinions > > > > > > Jim Sadler > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > sion.com]On Behalf Of Jim Sadler > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 9:25 AM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: M_Boats: M15 stuck centerboard > > > > > > > > > My center board is really stuck. > > > > > > I think it is probably a steel constructuon and has expanded. > > > > > > How do you get them loose? 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