Good timing on this subject... i was just going to write about it myself. My 
fiance and i just went out a couple days ago in a pretty good blow. Our Monty 
17 was healing at up to 30deg and we found that "exhilerating" to say the 
least. How much more could it take? Should we be more fearful than we were at 
30deg? Does she tend to "dig in" at that angle (she seemed to)? 
   
  Also, our GPS clocked us at around 6.3mph... is that typical? Slow? I need to 
tune her up. She needs a new jib and some stay/shroud replacements (especially 
the backstay... Jerry, an order is coming your way soon). 
   
  Neither of us swim all too well and we did have our PFD's on... it was a 
great day... fortunately Tina is a bit of a thrill seeker. I am blessed.
   
  Jeff
  Monty 17
  #336

W David Scobie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  i've never chartered in warmer waters (puget sound sailer), but i'll just 
toss out comments/observations that i believe relate to your situation:

if 15deg heal 'freaks' your wife i encourage you to look for a boat that is 
known for stiffness and performs well at low levels of heal. i've not been on a 
Beneteau (only on land at a boat show, never in the water), but i know one will 
sail better than my families old cheoy lee 32' (a boat that got cranky if the 
heal was above 15deg because of her large beams (a '79 'fatty', not the 
narrower 50s and 60s models). the family boat would balance herself if the on a 
reach or to the wind if the sails were correct for the wind (like 'spray'). 
over drive the boat and she slowed down, pounded the sea, and got a case of 
nasty weather helm.

a boat underpowered in any sea is going to roll and pitch much more than 15deg. 
i've taken many a 'stinkpotter' that commented the sailboat was 'smoother' and 
more sea friendly than any motorboat (as they tend to rock and roll like a cork 
in any sea).

now a montgomery likes to be over a bit (i'd say +/- a few deg. off 20deg). 
easy to get leaning, but stays put once over into the 'sweet spot.' (i'm sure 
my comment about a M's best angle of heal for performance with start another 
long discussion.)

well, here are my thoughts, don't know if they are of any assistance. good luck.


dave scobie
M15 #288 (not yet named)

brian gilbert wrote:
Hi folks:

Here's the situation... I've finally gotten my wife to agree to a bareboat
charter in the spring of next year, after our 12-year-old gets off for
summer vacation.

In general, she doesn't much care for sailboats. She'll indulge me for a
quick afternoon on the Monty, IF the wind is blowing (but not too much...
she gets very nervous past 15 degrees of heel) and we don't stay out too
long. 

But I was a liveaboard sailor, and if I could talk her into it, I'd buy
another large boat for some extended cruising. Karen's never overnighted
aboard... my M17 is WAY too small for her. A charter, if everything goes
right, is my big chance to get her hooked on the better parts of the sailing
lifestyle.

I was thinking of the Moorings in the BVI on about a 32 foot Beneteau or
similar. I hear that's like deer hunting using a baited field... the Virgins
are so pretty and the sailing is short and easy, or so I've heard. I've
never chartered a boat before, though, so I need recommendations and advice
from any of you who have. Any problems to avoid, things you wish you'd
brought, or unexpected surprises?

If everything goes just right, I know she'll fall in love with sailing a
larger boat. If everything goes just WRONG, as it sometimes can... well,
I'll probably never get her on a boat again. Your thoughts will be
appreciated.

Thanks
Brian Gilbert

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