Thanks Mark! It sounds like any M17 built in 1987 or later will be difficult to 
distiguish. I noted that older 17s had on two rudder pintles instead of the now 
three. I also note that the centerboard pennent on newer 17s is in the cockpit 
instead of the cabin. The headstay fitting also looks different. It used to be 
a black aluminum casting. Newer 17s have a fabricated stainless one. I just 
don't know what year these chages occured.
 
All the best and thanks again for the info.
 
Bill> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected]> Date: 
Sun, 21 Oct 2007 15:23:07 -0700> Subject: RE: M_Boats: Hull Number> > Bill,> 
I've never seen a Montgomery without the hull number molded into the> transom. 
I don't know what happened with the one you saw with the engraved> plate unless 
it was a boat made by the person who had the molds for a while> between Jerry 
and Bob Eeg. > In 1981 Jerry made the wet locker in the stern and changed the> 
cockpit drainage. Any Montgomery 17 before 1984 had aluminum toerails rather> 
than the teak toerail on newer boats. In 1987 the centerboard changed from> 
cast iron to fiberglass with a lead core. 1987 was also the year of changing> 
from steel shot to lead ballast. Also the galley and 4 berth arrangements> were 
replaced in 1987 with the 3-1/2 berth layout (a short 5' berth on port> with 
the deep locker aft). > Those are the changes that might indicate the general 
age of a Monty> 17 of which I am aware.> Hope that helps.> Mark Dvorscak> 
Former M17 owner> > -----Original Message-----> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of bill> safford> Sent: Sunday, October 21, 
2007 7:18 AM> To: [email protected]> Subject: M_Boats: Hull 
Number> > > How can the build year of an M17 be determined with any accuracy if 
the hull> number is missing? Isn't the hull number supposed to be molded into 
the hull> in the case of a fiberglass boat? I saw one M17 with a little 
plastic> engraved plate attached to the hull with seriously corroded fasteners. 
Is> this common to Montgomery? The plastic plate had white letters and numbers> 
on a black background. The galvanized Pacific trailer still had its maker's> 
tag on the tongue (1999).> > I know that cabin layout changed over the years, 
as did the cut out transom.> A magnet run across the keel would show if the 
ballast was steel of lead.> Are there any other sutle differences that may give 
away what year the boat> was built?> > Many thanks to any and all who answer 
with an opinion, facts, or otherwise.> > Willy> 
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