Nice going Bill. This is a terrific letter. I am beginning to get the picture.
Where's the boat been all my life? The great and high Dick Newick once said you
can have cost, performance, and comfort, but only two at a time. He was wrong.
ED> Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 07:48:51 -0800> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:
[email protected]> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Re: M17 heavy
weather capabilities> > Hi Edward,> > I am fortunate to see many of the
improvements and modifications being made> to the craft in our group. As a
result, when I read your post about things> tearing loose the boat that
immediately came to mind is a new one, called> Strawanza. She is the ultimate
in simplicity; no aux motor, no electrical to> short out, wind vane steering,
etc. all created to go from San Diego to> South Africa.> > I have never heard
of a story where a Montgomery was rolled, however If I> were planning a
circumnavigation in an M-Boat, I'd prepare for a roll. A> small craft in big
water is going to eventually experience one.> > Preparation would be the key.
Backing up all fittings with large and sturdy> plates comes to mind as does
making sure you wont get water in the cabin.> When you look at Strawanza, read
what Boat Builder Bob Eeg did to create and> prepare this blue water M17.> >
The question is: Do you need a boat like Strawanza? She is beautiful,> strong,
sturdy, bulletproof, and more. But most of us would never have the> time to do
what Strawanza's owner is doing. Some of us have sailed San> Francisco Bay,
where they say " if you can sail the Bay, you can sail> anywhere" I cannot say
if that is totally true, but I will say the M17 is a> treat in the Bay. It is
short enough to show no hobbyhorse in the close> choppy swells, with no burying
the bow and plenty strong for the winds> encountered, which I might add are
strong! Better yet, people like Robert> Becker sail their M15 on a routine
basis on SF Bay with complete confidence.> > Many have commented, the weak
point of the Montgomery Boats is not the boat> but the skipper. What those
writers are referring to is the boat will handle> more for longer periods than
the Skipper's endurance will sustain and M-Boat> owners agree.> > So, the only
question now is what options do you want on your new boat :-)> > P.s. I am not
a representative of Montgomery Boats. However, if Bob ever> wanted a salesman,
I'd apply. I do love the product. No Compromises and> never has been...
beginning with the original builder Jerry Montgomery and> still the same today.
Not many products have kept the faith in this greedy> world.> > Bill> Visit
Strawanza's page on the Photo Site>
http://www.msogphotosite.com/m17strawanza.html> > Main Page:
www.MSOGPhotoSite.com <http://www.msogphotosite.com/>> > > > > > > > On Jan 3,
2008 9:55 PM, edward haile <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > >> > Much thanks,
John. This is just the kind of hard info a new guy like me> > needs. This isn't
just something out of a brochure. I take the implication> > what's good for the
15 is all the more so for the 17. The only other thing I> > wonder is what
tears loose first. Does the boat have a weak point? The stop> > pin, the rudder
hardware, the rudder blade? Do any of you work the foredeck> > from the fore
hatch. That alone wd justify having a small cruiser in extreme> > conditions.
Has anybody taken an offshore capsize or complete rollover? Will> > the bow
bury in a short chop? ED> To:> > [email protected]> From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu,> > 3 Jan 2008 15:42:45 -0600> Subject: M_Boats:
Re: M17 heavy weather> > capabilities> > Reference Ed's and Gary's notes on
M17s in the 1/3/08> > postings, I had > some fine sailing away back when.> Here
is my personal> > experience that I posted last August, and it is > from my
journal, not from>> > my fading and likely boasting memory. My first M15 "Joy"
#264 was,> like> > Jerry's, well-ballasted. She had two 27 group deep cycle>
batteries in the> > bilge to power the Minn-Kota trolling motor that I> mounted
through the> > bilge, just aft of the keel. In mid-November of> 1989--I was a
very young 60> > way back then--I trailed to Stockton Lake> in Southwest
Missouri, a Corps of> > Engineers impoundment noted for> very low surrounding
hills and plenty of> > wind. My wind speed and boat> speed were as read from
the Dwyer hand-held> > wind meter, and a hand-> held Knotstick. Not electronic
and high tech, but> > neither were the> patent logs of the old Master Mariners.
With a reefed main> > and full> jib, I sailed out of my anchorage, and "Dwyer
said winds were> > rarely> below 20 miles per hour, usually 20 to 30 plus, with
gusts to over>> > 40! Knotstick reads 5 1/4 knots at times when on a close to
beam> reach."> > "Joy's changed heavy weather capability, with the second>
battery in the> > bilge, is remarkable. Now I'd say she is good for> fifteen to
twenty miles> > per hour, unreefed, thirty to thirty five > with both main and
jib> reefed."> > Now that I am a hundred years older, my "Rejoyce!" M15 #361>
may never see> > such fine sailing, but she loves to sail. And yes,> experience
helps, too,> > as well as a lot of ballast. I have been> sailing for over 65
years, first> > with my "Snipe," and then a > procession of> sailboats from a
Sun Fish, 13'> > canoe with a sail designed for an 18> footer, Philippine
dugout canoe> > ("Banca"), Pearson Triton, so many> others, and aboard a 103'
three stick> > schooner in winds over 70 knots> bucking a strong current, with
waves over> > 50', in Australia's Tasman> Sea, complete with a couple knock
downs and a> > pooping while I was at> the helm. Much fun! Yes, our wonderful
little M15> > can take a lot, if> you are prepared, properly rigged, and have
some> > previous experience> in heavy weather.> "Grace is receiving what we do
not> > deserve,> Mercy is not receiving what we do deserve."> > > > >> >
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