Here is a thought:

I rigged a downhaul on a P15 some time ago and thoughtlessly put the line
inside the hanks and through a small bottom swivel block near the forward
shroud connection and on back to the cockpit. I'm so smart I was thinking.

I'm on SF Bay with a good wind blowing with heavy gusts, threatening to lay
the Potter over, I had a reefed main so I pulled on the downhaul...

I had a quick release pin on the bottom shroud connection (makes rigging
quicker I was told) and I guess you can imagine how exciting it got when the
mast fell back into the cockpit. I think the lesson is, take care where you
run the downhaul. Maybe even, be careful where you put those push button
quick release pins. Wish I had a video of that one.

I believe I could have re-hoisted the mast if it was a Monty 15, but one
does not wander about the forward deck of a Potter 15, in the middle of SF
Bay!

So, I motored for better than an hour, hoping no one of the hundreds of
boats was watching as I dragged the mast, boom, mainsail, etc, into a Marina
to re-rig.

Even though my fault, that was when I decided the P15 had to go.

Yea I know... dumb A%&!

Bill



On Jan 6, 2008 12:45 PM, Chris and Jeff Packer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Yes, downhauls are great.  I've had them on my last 2 boats and you can
> drop
> the jib from the cockpit so fast... especially when your sailing up to a
> dock or mooring buoy.  They also have the advantage of being able to tie
> the
> jib down from the cockpit so its not trying to run itself back up in
> strong
> wind.
>
> Jeff
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 9:34 AM
> Subject: M_Boats: Re: M17 heavy weather capabilities
>
>
> > I'd have to second Gary's observations about the M17 hatch. I'm a pretty
> > big
> > boy and honestly I never tried it. My 17 had the backwards opening front
> > hatch, so even if you fit, the hatch lid would prevent you from leaning
> > forward.
> > In this photo you can see the hinges are on the front of the hatch and
> > that
> > there's no way you'd be able to work around it to deal with the luff of
> > the
> > jib.
> >
> > _http://msogphotosite.com/MSOG/b17thomps/b17thomps7.jpg_
> > (http://msogphotosite.com/MSOG/b17thomps/b17thomps7.jpg)
> >
> > On later versions and I believe the new M17's that Bob builds the hatch
> > opens from the front...
> > Hey Gary H.!  Doesn't your hatch open from the front???  Could  you
> manage
> > a
> > headsail change through it???
> > (http://msogphotosite.com/MSOG/b17thomps/b17thomps7.jpg)
> > Lately, I have been experimenting for the first time ever (for me) with
> a
> > simple downhaul attached to the jib/genoa head. Holly cow, why I never
> did
> > this
> > before is beyond me. I don't mind going forward and pulling a sail down
> > when
> > someone's on the helm but when singlehanding it's a pain. When I'm alone
> I
> > try  to make sure I don't overcanvass for the conditions, but if I do,
> now
> > I can
> > at  least get the sail down on the deck and secure before I ever leave
> the
> > relative  safety of the cockpit. It also allows me to hank on a jib at
> the
> > dock
> > , and  attach the halyard without worry that the halyard is going to
> foul
> > something by  swinging around slack before I'm ready to raise it. I just
> > hook up
> > the downhaul  and tension the halyard. I know, I know, roller furling
> > would
> > solve that issue.  Someday I may go back to a furler, but for now I'm
> > happy with
> > hank-ons.
> >
> > Sean
> >
> >
> >
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